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'''High Imperial''' is the official language of [[Spook]].
 
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'''High Imperial''', known before the [[Final Ascension]] of Harmony as Eastern street slang, is a dialect on Scadrial used by [[Spook]] and his childhood friends.{{book ref|mb3|23}} After the ascension of Harmony, High Imperial turned into a scholarly, formal language that was rarely used outside of important legal documents.
 
It is the eastern slang that Spook spoke before the [[Final Ascension]] of Harmony. After the ascension of Harmony, High Imperial turned from an eastern street slang into a scholarly, formal language that was rarely used outside of important legal documents.
 
   
 
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|One thing about High Imperial, or Eastern Street Slang, is that it was devised by those who spoke it in order to be intentionally obtuse. So it was hard for people to understand. And so there are a lot of nonsense words thrown in the middle. But, it's also got reversed grammar. 'Wasing the wanting of doing the thing' is 'I wanted to do that.' But you can also throw random words in there. As long as those parts are in there, it'll make sense to those they're speaking to. 'I wanted to do this. Wasing the wanting of doing the thing.' You're putting everything into a gerund. You're starting with the verb and the tense. And you're turning everything into ridiculously bad gerunds. That's it in brief.
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| One thing about High Imperial, or Eastern Street Slang, is that it was devised by those who spoke it in order to be intentionally obtuse. So it was hard for people to understand. And so there are a lot of nonsense words thrown in the middle. But, it's also got reversed grammar. 'Wasing the wanting of doing the thing' is 'I wanted to do that.' But you can also throw random words in there. As long as those parts are in there, it'll make sense to those they're speaking to. 'I wanted to do this. Wasing the wanting of doing the thing.' You're putting everything into a gerund. You're starting with the verb and the tense. And you're turning everything into ridiculously bad gerunds. That's it in brief.
|Brandon Sanderson on making sense of High Imperial{{qa ref|836|33|How does one make sense of Spook's High Imperial?|date=Sep 22nd, 2012}}
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| Brandon Sanderson on making sense of High Imperial{{wob ref|9920}}
 
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== Quotes ==
 
== Quotes ==
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| Wasing the where of needing
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| The message left on the [[aluminum]] pistol{{book ref|mb4|14}}
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}}
   
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{{quote
{{quote|Wasing the where of needing|The message left on the [[aluminum]] pistol{{book ref|mb4|14}}|}}
 
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|Wasing the always of wanting of knowing.
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|The words etched on the gates of Elendel University{{book ref|mb5|5}}
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}}
   
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{{quote
{{quote|Ups in the where above the doing|[[Vin]] meets [[Spook]]{{book ref|mb1|6}}|}}
 
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| Ups in the where above with the doing.
{{quote|Not of the yetting yet.<br />Wasing the place when I was young.|Spook's name is Lestibournes and he speaks in Eastern slang{{book ref|mb1|6}}|}}
 
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| [[Vin]] meets [[Spook]]{{book ref|mb1|6}}
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}}
   
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{{quote
{{quote|Someone's coming! Out the night with the calling!|On [[Sazed]]s arrival with Vin{{book ref|mb1|15}}|}}
 
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| Not of the yetting yet.<br />Wasing the place when I was young.
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| Spook's name is Lestibournes and he speaks in Eastern slang{{book ref|mb1|6}}
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}}
   
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{{quote
{{quote|You're awaking!<br />Notting as the now. [[Kelsier]] wasing the hit with my name; changed it to Spook.|{{book ref|mb1|16}}|}}
 
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| Someone's coming! Out the night with the calling!
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| On [[Sazed]]'s arrival with Vin{{book ref|mb1|15}}
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}}
   
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{{quote
{{quote|Wasing the Dox to come and be without the stay.<br />Weapons for the getting, giving the time to be.|[[Dockson]] arrives with the weapons for the rebellion{{book ref|mb1|22}}|}}
 
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| You're awaking!<br />Notting as the now. [[Kelsier]] wasing the hit with my name; changed it to Spook.
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| {{book ref|mb1|16}}
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}}
   
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{{quote
{{quote|"Nicing the not on the playing without.<br>
 
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| Wasing the Dox to come and be without the stay.<br />Weapons for the getting, giving the time to be.
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| [[Dockson]] arrives with the weapons for the rebellion{{book ref|mb1|22}}
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{{quote
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| Niceing the not on the playing without.<br>
 
Losing the stress on the nip. Notting without the needing of care. - Kelsier<br>
 
Losing the stress on the nip. Notting without the needing of care. - Kelsier<br>
 
Riding the rile of the rids to the right.<br>
 
Riding the rile of the rids to the right.<br>
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Ever wasing the doing of this. - Kelsier<br>
 
Ever wasing the doing of this. - Kelsier<br>
 
Ever wasing the wish of having the have. Brighting the wish of wasing the not. - Ham<br>
 
Ever wasing the wish of having the have. Brighting the wish of wasing the not. - Ham<br>
Wasing not of wasing is.| {{book ref|mb1|24}} conversation between [[Spook]], [[Kelsier]], [[Dockson]] and [[Ham]]}}
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Wasing not of wasing is.
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| {{book ref|mb1|24}} conversation between [[Spook]], [[Kelsier]], [[Dockson]] and [[Ham]]
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{{quote|I'm not of the seeing. Uncle, you really the burn, right?|{{book ref|mb1|26}}|}}
 
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| I'm not of the seeing. Uncle, you really the burn, right?
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| {{book ref|mb1|26}}
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{{quote
{{quote|Keep Hasting. Elariel soldiers with the attacking tonight.<br>
 
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| Keep Hasting. Elariel soldiers with the attacking tonight.//Wasing the want of this.//Wasing the Snap when I was five.
Wasing the want of this.<br>
 
Wasing the Snap when I was five.|{{book ref|mb1|32}}|}}
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| {{book ref|mb1|32}}
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{{quote
{{quote|Wasing the where of calling out.|{{book ref|mb2|6}}|}}
 
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| Wasing the where of calling out.
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| {{book ref|mb2|6}}
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{{quote|Wasing the where of what?<br>
 
Lestibournes. Lefting I'm born. I've been abandoned|Spook {{book ref|mb3|23}}|}}
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|Wasing the where of what? // Lestibournes. Lefting I'm born. I've been abandoned
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| Spook {{book ref|mb3|23}}
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{{quote|Wasing." Was doing.<br>
 
{{quote|Wasing." Was doing.<br>
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"Wasing the how of wanting the doing.<br>
 
"Wasing the how of wanting the doing.<br>
 
But that's the best part, [[Beldre]] said. "It's gibberish on purpose, right?"<br>
 
But that's the best part, [[Beldre]] said. "It's gibberish on purpose, right?"<br>
Spook remembered with fondness how his parents had responded to his adoption of the slang. It had been a kind of power, being able to say things that only his friends could understand. Of course, he'd started speaking in it so much that it had been hard to switch back.|Conversation between Beldre and Spook {{book ref|mb3|56}} }}
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Spook remembered with fondness how his parents had responded to his adoption of the slang. It had been a kind of power, being able to say things that only his friends could understand. Of course, he'd started speaking in it so much that it had been hard to switch back.
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| Conversation between Beldre and Spook {{book ref|mb3|56}}
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== How To Speak ==
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{{theory}}
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* The '''pronoun''' is assumed to be you unless contradicted.
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** Using your name is redundant.
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** If you must refer to the subject do so at '''the end'''.
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* Use '''nicknames for people''', the language is based off moving the structure of a sentence into as many ''confusing manners'' as possible. In fact, using a '''nickname of a nickname''' is best. For example, Spook uses the nickname Nip to refer to Breeze, which is in itself a nickname.
   
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* ''Adjectives'' come '''first''', Then ''verbs'', even if you form them as nouns
==How To Speak==
 
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** In general, '''verbs should be gerunds''', meaning they should end with ''-ing'', even if that's not normally correct.
Ising of the wanting of cleaning in the part.
 
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** The only exception is if the verb can't become a gerund without losing the needed meaning.
   
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* Form sentences ''(Tense-Adjective) (Verb-Gerund) Noun''
*Place the tense of the phrase, either present, past or future at the front of the phrase.
 
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** The longer the sentence is it becomes '''symmetrical'''.
** '''wasing''' is past tense.
 
** '''ising''' is present tense. It isn't to difficult to figure out most other words.
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** Remember it '''TAV-GuN; Nug VAT''' Those in parenthesis (see above) ''can be swapped'' around with each other.
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*** I don't know where the you came from; this is how a friend explained it to me.
   
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* It's better to use '''longer sentences''', the shorter ones can give more '''clarity, which we are trying to avoid. Throw as many "wasings" and "hasings" in as possible, even if they are not necessary to divert from the actual point'''
*Every verb ends in -ing
 
** i.e wasing the '''wanting''' of '''doing''' the thing
 
   
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* '''Don't use possessives''' unless they are formed as ''adjectives''.
*Refer to people by nicknames, whether it's phonetic or because of an ability, have nicknames for people.
 
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** To refer to a subject say '''"of <subject name>"'''.
** i.e. Spook, Sir. Jumps, Dox
 
** Wasing not the need of '''Sir. Jumps'''.
 
   
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* Many phrases begin with '''Wasing''' or '''Ising'''.
* Input small words such as '''the, of, and, is, now, I'm''', ect. Ignore standard rules of grammar in most cases, and use the word that makes the '''LEAST''' sence
 
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** '''Ising (in the) now''' is incorrect, don't pair them. This ''changes'' the tense.
* So instead of "wasing want of doing thing" it is
 
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*** If you must change the tense, you'll have to cycle again, or you risk adding too much clarity to what you say.
** Wasing '''in the''' wanting '''of the''' doing '''and the''' thing.
 
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** Don't neglect '''Notting, Nowing, Nearing, Having, Kind, Good, You, He, Wanting''' and other words as they work well too.
   
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*Remember that you'll learn to understand it before you speak it near as well.
* Use a different words then you might normally.
 
** i.e. "I'm not of the seeing" rather than "Wasing not in the knowing". Though they both mean<br>I don't know, the first is harder to understand.
 
** Above I use part instead of page or section to make the meaning less clear
 
   
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Reference Mistborn:The Final Empire for Lestibourne's parts.
* Use large nouns, such as the subject towards the end. Once you've said them in a paragraph, you don't necessarily have to say it in each sentence, you can use; '''he, she, they, it, thing'''
 
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Guide dictated by Lady Amdin, written by Sir Kit
** Ising the wanting of being in the knowing of the now.
 
   
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== Trivia ==
* Be vague, if you are talking to people, you don't need to establish the subject more than once.
 
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* The dialect's grammatical rules are intentionally vague.{{wob ref|14727}}
** i.e. Notting is the nice of the wanting without.
 
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* High Imperial was inspired by a person Brandon knew from the [[Timewasters Guide]] forums, who sometimes posted random gibberish that, upon close inspection, turned out to be rather poetic.{{wob ref|2378}}
** Wasing with the wanting of knowing a friend.
 
   
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
 
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Latest revision as of 16:26, 21 May 2023

High Imperial
Related to Spook
Type Dialect
Era Post-Catacendre
World of Origin Scadrial
Universe Cosmere
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High Imperial, known before the Final Ascension of Harmony as Eastern street slang, is a dialect on Scadrial used by Spook and his childhood friends.[1] After the ascension of Harmony, High Imperial turned into a scholarly, formal language that was rarely used outside of important legal documents.

One thing about High Imperial, or Eastern Street Slang, is that it was devised by those who spoke it in order to be intentionally obtuse. So it was hard for people to understand. And so there are a lot of nonsense words thrown in the middle. But, it's also got reversed grammar. 'Wasing the wanting of doing the thing' is 'I wanted to do that.' But you can also throw random words in there. As long as those parts are in there, it'll make sense to those they're speaking to. 'I wanted to do this. Wasing the wanting of doing the thing.' You're putting everything into a gerund. You're starting with the verb and the tense. And you're turning everything into ridiculously bad gerunds. That's it in brief.

— Brandon Sanderson on making sense of High Imperial[2]

Quotes[edit]

Wasing the where of needing

— The message left on the aluminum pistol[3]

Wasing the always of wanting of knowing.

—The words etched on the gates of Elendel University[4]

Ups in the where above with the doing.

Vin meets Spook[5]

Not of the yetting yet.
Wasing the place when I was young.

— Spook's name is Lestibournes and he speaks in Eastern slang[5]

Someone's coming! Out the night with the calling!

— On Sazed's arrival with Vin[6]

You're awaking!
Notting as the now. Kelsier wasing the hit with my name; changed it to Spook.

[7]

Wasing the Dox to come and be without the stay.
Weapons for the getting, giving the time to be.

Dockson arrives with the weapons for the rebellion[8]

Niceing the not on the playing without.

Losing the stress on the nip. Notting without the needing of care. - Kelsier
Riding the rile of the rids to the right.
Wasing the was of brightness. Nip the having of wishing of this.
Ever wasing the doing of this. - Kelsier
Ever wasing the wish of having the have. Brighting the wish of wasing the not. - Ham
Wasing not of wasing is.

[9] conversation between Spook, Kelsier, Dockson and Ham

I'm not of the seeing. Uncle, you really the burn, right?

[10]

Keep Hasting. Elariel soldiers with the attacking tonight.//Wasing the want of this.//Wasing the Snap when I was five.

[11]

Wasing the where of calling out.

[12]

Wasing the where of what? // Lestibournes. Lefting I'm born. I've been abandoned

— Spook [1]

Wasing." Was doing.

" 'Wasing the run of there' would mean 'I was running to that place.' "
"Wasing the how of wanting the doing." Beldre (reading Spook's writing)
"Wasing the how of wanting the doing.
But that's the best part, Beldre said. "It's gibberish on purpose, right?"
Spook remembered with fondness how his parents had responded to his adoption of the slang. It had been a kind of power, being able to say things that only his friends could understand. Of course, he'd started speaking in it so much that it had been hard to switch back.

— Conversation between Beldre and Spook [13]

How To Speak[edit]

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  • The pronoun is assumed to be you unless contradicted.
    • Using your name is redundant.
    • If you must refer to the subject do so at the end.
  • Use nicknames for people, the language is based off moving the structure of a sentence into as many confusing manners as possible. In fact, using a nickname of a nickname is best. For example, Spook uses the nickname Nip to refer to Breeze, which is in itself a nickname.
  • Adjectives come first, Then verbs, even if you form them as nouns
    • In general, verbs should be gerunds, meaning they should end with -ing, even if that's not normally correct.
    • The only exception is if the verb can't become a gerund without losing the needed meaning.
  • Form sentences (Tense-Adjective) (Verb-Gerund) Noun
    • The longer the sentence is it becomes symmetrical.
    • Remember it TAV-GuN; Nug VAT Those in parenthesis (see above) can be swapped around with each other.
      • I don't know where the you came from; this is how a friend explained it to me.
  • It's better to use longer sentences, the shorter ones can give more clarity, which we are trying to avoid. Throw as many "wasings" and "hasings" in as possible, even if they are not necessary to divert from the actual point
  • Don't use possessives unless they are formed as adjectives.
    • To refer to a subject say "of <subject name>".
  • Many phrases begin with Wasing or Ising.
    • Ising (in the) now is incorrect, don't pair them. This changes the tense.
      • If you must change the tense, you'll have to cycle again, or you risk adding too much clarity to what you say.
    • Don't neglect Notting, Nowing, Nearing, Having, Kind, Good, You, He, Wanting and other words as they work well too.
  • Remember that you'll learn to understand it before you speak it near as well.

Reference Mistborn:The Final Empire for Lestibourne's parts. Guide dictated by Lady Amdin, written by Sir Kit

Trivia[edit]

  • The dialect's grammatical rules are intentionally vague.[14]
  • High Imperial was inspired by a person Brandon knew from the Timewasters Guide forums, who sometimes posted random gibberish that, upon close inspection, turned out to be rather poetic.[15]

Notes[edit]

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