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== Patji ==
 
"Patji is a Shard of Adonalsium."
 
 
https://wob.coppermind.net/events/256-oathbringer-london-signing/#e8606
 
 
:: I saw this while reading WoBs, and attempted to add this. However, I couldn't figure out how the references work. Could someone more experienced add this as an eleventh known Shard?
 
 
::: Patji is an avatar of Autonomy, not a new Shard. --[[User:Jofwu|Jofwu]] ([[User talk:Jofwu|talk]]) 19:27, 26 April 2018 (MST)
 
 
 
== Harmony ==
 
== Harmony ==
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Someone ought to add Harmony to the list of shards. <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.186.236.186]] 00:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)</small>
 
Someone ought to add Harmony to the list of shards.
 
   
 
: My understanding was that Sazed held Ruin and Preservation, and wasn't able to unite them due to their opposed nature. Thus Harmony is just a nickname for Sazed-as-Ruin-and-Preservation, not an actual united shard. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
 
: My understanding was that Sazed held Ruin and Preservation, and wasn't able to unite them due to their opposed nature. Thus Harmony is just a nickname for Sazed-as-Ruin-and-Preservation, not an actual united shard. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
   
:: He describes mingling them in HoA and all creatures on Scadrial are mingling so it is likely that they have been mixed into harmony
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: He describes mingling them in HoA and all creatures on Scadrial are mingling so it is likely that they have been mixed into harmony <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Meditationform]] 05:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)</small>
 
== Dominion ==
 
 
The sixth reference supposedly supports assertions about another shard being revealed (dominion). But the linked interview doesn't mention shards or dominion anywhere.
 
   
 
== New Shard Dominion ==
 
The sixth reference supposedly supports assertions about another shard being revealed (dominion). But the linked interview doesn't mention shards or dominion anywhere. <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.206.140.226]] 04:44, 7 July 2014 (UTC)</small>
   
 
== Splinters and Spren ==
 
== Splinters and Spren ==
 
Didn't we have WoB at one stage that Spren are Splinters of Honour? They're currently not listed in this section, so I'll try to hunt down the relevant interview, assuming it wasn't pre 17th shard and unarchived. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
 
Splinters and Spren: Didn't we have WoB at one stage that Spren are Splinters of Honour? They're currently not listed in this section, so I'll try to hunt down the relevant interview, assuming it wasn't pre 17th shard and unarchived. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
 
   
 
== "Ruin and Preservation can both whisper into the minds of humans." ==
 
== "Ruin and Preservation can both whisper into the minds of humans." ==
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According to SoS, only Ruin can whisper. Preservation can only read mind. <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.162.215.105]] 13:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)</small>
   
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== Shard for Cryptics ==
According to SoS, only Ruin can whisper. Preservation can only read mind.
 
 
Do the Patternspren get a shard? Could that explain epigraph 11 in Way of Kings? <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Mocpages]] 16:44, 29 June 2016 (UTC)</small>
   
 
== Domi as Dominion or Devotion ==
== Patternspren Shard? ==
 
 
The article's suggestion that Domi is short for Dominion seems implausible, as Domi matches Devotion much more closely. (Jaddeth, on the other hand, is presumably based on Dominion.) Furthermore, it is explicit in the list of Aons that Domi comes from Aon Omi, meaning love. <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.222]] 00:36, 18 December 2016 (UTC)</small>
Do the Patternspren get a shard? Could that explain epigraph 11 in Way of Kings?
 
 
== Domi = Dominion Correction ==
 
 
The article's suggestion that Domi is short for Dominion seems implausible, as Domi matches Devotion much more closely. (Jaddeth, on the other hand, is presumably based on Dominion.) Furthermore, it is explicit in the list of Aons that Domi comes from Aon Omi, meaning love.
 
   
 
:Yeah I just removed that line. That's just plain wrong, and never should have been added.--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 19:31, 17 December 2016 (MST)
 
:Yeah I just removed that line. That's just plain wrong, and never should have been added.--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 19:31, 17 December 2016 (MST)
   
 
== Trell ==
 
== Trell ==
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Is Trell a Shard? <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Meep]] 22:27, 5 February 2017 (UTC)</small>
   
 
== Confirmed Splinters ==
Is Trell a Shard?
 
 
The divine Breath that Returned hold ... and the Aon within a Seon ... are the only confirmed Splinters" - aren't spren also splinters of honor? <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:AllomancerJak]] 16:31, 11 September 2017 (UTC)</small>
 
== Splinters ==
 
 
The divine Breath that Returned hold ... and the Aon within a Seon ... are the only confirmed Splinters" - aren't spren also splinters of honor?
 
   
 
== Threnody ==
 
== Threnody ==
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Take a look: http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kw=threnody
 
Take a look: http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kw=threnody
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<small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.127]] 21:28, 3 November 2017 (UTC)</small>
   
 
: Ambition has been dead for a long time, so "world" should probably be N/A rather than Threnody. But I imagine that Threnody is listed because that's where Ambition fought Odium, and chunks of Ambition's power were ripped off and have probably had lasting effects on Threnody, and might still be lingering? --[[User:Shroom|Shroom]] ([[User talk:Shroom|talk]]) 18:37, 4 November 2017 (MST)
 
: Ambition has been dead for a long time, so "world" should probably be N/A rather than Threnody. But I imagine that Threnody is listed because that's where Ambition fought Odium, and chunks of Ambition's power were ripped off and have probably had lasting effects on Threnody, and might still be lingering? --[[User:Shroom|Shroom]] ([[User talk:Shroom|talk]]) 18:37, 4 November 2017 (MST)
   
:: I'm not allowed to edit this page, but it could be something like "Unknown. Threnody (formerly)."?
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:: I'm not allowed to edit this page, but it could be something like "Unknown. Threnody (formerly)."? <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Nyxen]] 00:48, 7 December 2022 (UTC)</small>
   
 
::: Threnody is listed due to the fact that portions of Ambition's power were ripped out and Invested into Threnody causing "Disturbing effects", likely referring to Shades and the Evil, and a perpendicularity of "morbid origin". I feel it is safe to say Ambition is basically invested into Threnody, albeit in a strange manner. --[[User:Firesong|Firesong]] ([[User talk:Firesong|talk]]) December 6th, 2022
 
::: Threnody is listed due to the fact that portions of Ambition's power were ripped out and Invested into Threnody causing "Disturbing effects", likely referring to Shades and the Evil, and a perpendicularity of "morbid origin". I feel it is safe to say Ambition is basically invested into Threnody, albeit in a strange manner. --[[User:Firesong|Firesong]] ([[User talk:Firesong|talk]]) December 6th, 2022
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== New Shard Patji ==
 
"Patji is a Shard of Adonalsium."
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https://wob.coppermind.net/events/256-oathbringer-london-signing/#e8606
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I saw this while reading WoBs, and attempted to add this. However, I couldn't figure out how the references work. Could someone more experienced add this as an eleventh known Shard?
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<small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Tobbzn]] 13:51, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</small>
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:Patji is an avatar of Autonomy, not a new Shard. --[[User:Jofwu|Jofwu]] ([[User talk:Jofwu|talk]]) 19:27, 26 April 2018 (MST)

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Harmony

Someone ought to add Harmony to the list of shards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/76.186.236.186 00:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

My understanding was that Sazed held Ruin and Preservation, and wasn't able to unite them due to their opposed nature. Thus Harmony is just a nickname for Sazed-as-Ruin-and-Preservation, not an actual united shard. --198.41.238.101 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
He describes mingling them in HoA and all creatures on Scadrial are mingling so it is likely that they have been mixed into harmony — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Meditationform 05:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

New Shard Dominion

The sixth reference supposedly supports assertions about another shard being revealed (dominion). But the linked interview doesn't mention shards or dominion anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/98.206.140.226 04:44, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Splinters and Spren

Didn't we have WoB at one stage that Spren are Splinters of Honour? They're currently not listed in this section, so I'll try to hunt down the relevant interview, assuming it wasn't pre 17th shard and unarchived. --198.41.238.101 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)

"Ruin and Preservation can both whisper into the minds of humans."

According to SoS, only Ruin can whisper. Preservation can only read mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/108.162.215.105 13:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Shard for Cryptics

Do the Patternspren get a shard? Could that explain epigraph 11 in Way of Kings? — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Mocpages 16:44, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Domi as Dominion or Devotion

The article's suggestion that Domi is short for Dominion seems implausible, as Domi matches Devotion much more closely. (Jaddeth, on the other hand, is presumably based on Dominion.) Furthermore, it is explicit in the list of Aons that Domi comes from Aon Omi, meaning love. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/162.158.62.222 00:36, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I just removed that line. That's just plain wrong, and never should have been added.--WeiryWriter (talk) 19:31, 17 December 2016 (MST)

Trell

Is Trell a Shard? — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Meep 22:27, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Confirmed Splinters

The divine Breath that Returned hold ... and the Aon within a Seon ... are the only confirmed Splinters" - aren't spren also splinters of honor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:AllomancerJak 16:31, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Threnody

According to WoB, Threnody doesn't have a shard. So why is Ambition shown to be on Threnody?

Take a look: http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kw=threnody

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/108.162.245.127 21:28, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Ambition has been dead for a long time, so "world" should probably be N/A rather than Threnody. But I imagine that Threnody is listed because that's where Ambition fought Odium, and chunks of Ambition's power were ripped off and have probably had lasting effects on Threnody, and might still be lingering? --Shroom (talk) 18:37, 4 November 2017 (MST)
I'm not allowed to edit this page, but it could be something like "Unknown. Threnody (formerly)."? — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Nyxen 00:48, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Threnody is listed due to the fact that portions of Ambition's power were ripped out and Invested into Threnody causing "Disturbing effects", likely referring to Shades and the Evil, and a perpendicularity of "morbid origin". I feel it is safe to say Ambition is basically invested into Threnody, albeit in a strange manner. --Firesong (talk) December 6th, 2022

New Shard Patji

"Patji is a Shard of Adonalsium."

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/256-oathbringer-london-signing/#e8606

I saw this while reading WoBs, and attempted to add this. However, I couldn't figure out how the references work. Could someone more experienced add this as an eleventh known Shard?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Tobbzn 13:51, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Patji is an avatar of Autonomy, not a new Shard. --Jofwu (talk) 19:27, 26 April 2018 (MST)