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|world=Roshar |
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|prereq=''unknown'' |
|prereq=''unknown'' |
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|type=''unknown'' |
|type=''unknown'' |
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|books=[[The Stormlight Archive]] |
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The '''Old Magic''' is one of the magical systems in effect on [[Roshar]]. |
The '''Old Magic''' is one of the magical systems in effect on [[Roshar]]. |
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| ⚫ | Little is known about the Old Magic. Baxil speaks about the boon and curse of the Old Magic, as well as the residency of the [[Nightwatcher]] in the Valley. Av says "It's not a game, no matter how the stories try to put it. The Nightwatcher doesn't trick you or twist your words. You ask a boon. She gives what she feels you deserve, then gives you a curse to go along with it. Sometimes related, sometimes not."{{book ref|sa1|i|7}} The Nightwatcher is to the [[Shard]] [[Cultivation]] as the [[Stormfather]] is to [[Honor]].{{book ref|sa3|111}} There is no record of anyone ever having had their curse lifted.{{book ref|sa3|111}} |
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| − | Little is known about the Old Magic. It is mentioned only in passing in '''[[The Way of Kings]]''' as [[Dalinar]] explains how he gained something but lost all memories of his wife by striking a deal with a powerful [[spren]] known as the [[Nightwatcher]]. |
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| + | It is mentioned in passing by [[Dalinar]], who explains how he gained something but lost all memories of his wife by striking a deal with a powerful [[spren]] known as the [[Nightwatcher]].{{book ref|sa1|61}} Dalinar sought the Nightwatcher to end the pain he was feeling after accidentally causing the death of his wife, [[Evi Kholin]]. When he finally went to the Nightwatcher, he asks to be "forgiven", much to the confusion of the Nightwatcher. Eventually, [[Cultivation]] comes out and erases his memory of Evi. She describes it as "pruning" his memory, so he can grow and heal. She mentions that his memories will eventually return. He has no memory of killing her or anything involving her, although he is aware she existed. Additionally, when someone mentions her name, all that he hears is "[[Brightness Kholin|''Shshshsh'']]". It is revealed that the returning memories were part of his curse, that he would remember how she had died.{{book ref|sa3|114}} |
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| ⚫ | [[Taravangian]], king of [[Kharbranth]], asked a boon of the [[Nightwatcher]]: 'The capacity to save this world from destruction.' It claims he was given that capacity and, with it, created the [[Diagram]]. The Diagram is a combination augury and plan written in a language created by [[Taravangian]] himself for the purpose which laid out how he could save [[Roshar]]. The curse that came with his boon is indicated to be that he is not always in possession of such capacity, and that his compassion for the results of the decisions he makes varies conversely with his level of logical reasoning. Some days he is as dull-minded as a [[Parshman]] and brought easily to tears as he realizes decisions he makes may bring death to innocents, while on others he is more intelligent and able-minded than the greatest scholar but regards everything he is ordering done with cold logic and an eye for the bigger picture of Roshar.{{book ref|sa2|i|14}} As yet, he has had only one day of perfect mental capacity and he constantly wishes for just one more chance with such capability.{{book ref|sa3|i|5}} The change in intelligence and compassion will still happen even if Taravangian is awake and conscious in the middle of the night.{{wob ref|11390}} |
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| − | In '''[[Oathbringer]]''', it is revealed that the Nightwatcher is to the [[Shard]] [[Cultivation]] as the [[Stormfather]] is to [[Honor]]. We also learn that there is no record of anyone ever having had their curse lifted, though this clashes with [[Dalinar]]'s experience, as his memories of his wife, which had been stripped from him by the Old Magic's curse, begin slowly returning for unknown reasons. It is revealed that the returning memories were part of his curse, that he would remember how she had died. |
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The precise wording of her request is unknown, but [[Lift]] believes that "she was supposed to stay the same, and the world was supposed to change around her."{{book ref|edgedancer|1}} Lift interprets this to mean that she shouldn't age, which does not appear to be the case. The boon and curse are unknown, but Lift's abilities to physically touch [[Wyndle]] and to digest food into [[Stormlight]] are apparently related to one or both of these.{{book ref|wor|i|9}} Wyndle supposes that she is partially stuck in the Cognitive Realm.{{book ref|edgedancer|4}} |
The precise wording of her request is unknown, but [[Lift]] believes that "she was supposed to stay the same, and the world was supposed to change around her."{{book ref|edgedancer|1}} Lift interprets this to mean that she shouldn't age, which does not appear to be the case. The boon and curse are unknown, but Lift's abilities to physically touch [[Wyndle]] and to digest food into [[Stormlight]] are apparently related to one or both of these.{{book ref|wor|i|9}} Wyndle supposes that she is partially stuck in the Cognitive Realm.{{book ref|edgedancer|4}} |
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Revision as of 20:16, 28 October 2018
| Old Magic | |
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| Related to | Cultivation |
| Prerequisites | unknown |
| Type | unknown |
| World of Origin | Roshar |
The Old Magic is one of the magical systems in effect on Roshar.
Little is known about the Old Magic. Baxil speaks about the boon and curse of the Old Magic, as well as the residency of the Nightwatcher in the Valley. Av says "It's not a game, no matter how the stories try to put it. The Nightwatcher doesn't trick you or twist your words. You ask a boon. She gives what she feels you deserve, then gives you a curse to go along with it. Sometimes related, sometimes not."[1] The Nightwatcher is to the Shard Cultivation as the Stormfather is to Honor.[2] There is no record of anyone ever having had their curse lifted.[2]
It is mentioned in passing by Dalinar, who explains how he gained something but lost all memories of his wife by striking a deal with a powerful spren known as the Nightwatcher.[3] Dalinar sought the Nightwatcher to end the pain he was feeling after accidentally causing the death of his wife, Evi Kholin. When he finally went to the Nightwatcher, he asks to be "forgiven", much to the confusion of the Nightwatcher. Eventually, Cultivation comes out and erases his memory of Evi. She describes it as "pruning" his memory, so he can grow and heal. She mentions that his memories will eventually return. He has no memory of killing her or anything involving her, although he is aware she existed. Additionally, when someone mentions her name, all that he hears is "Shshshsh". It is revealed that the returning memories were part of his curse, that he would remember how she had died.[4]
Taravangian, king of Kharbranth, asked a boon of the Nightwatcher: 'The capacity to save this world from destruction.' It claims he was given that capacity and, with it, created the Diagram. The Diagram is a combination augury and plan written in a language created by Taravangian himself for the purpose which laid out how he could save Roshar. The curse that came with his boon is indicated to be that he is not always in possession of such capacity, and that his compassion for the results of the decisions he makes varies conversely with his level of logical reasoning. Some days he is as dull-minded as a Parshman and brought easily to tears as he realizes decisions he makes may bring death to innocents, while on others he is more intelligent and able-minded than the greatest scholar but regards everything he is ordering done with cold logic and an eye for the bigger picture of Roshar.[5] As yet, he has had only one day of perfect mental capacity and he constantly wishes for just one more chance with such capability.[6] The change in intelligence and compassion will still happen even if Taravangian is awake and conscious in the middle of the night.[7]
The precise wording of her request is unknown, but Lift believes that "she was supposed to stay the same, and the world was supposed to change around her."[8] Lift interprets this to mean that she shouldn't age, which does not appear to be the case. The boon and curse are unknown, but Lift's abilities to physically touch Wyndle and to digest food into Stormlight are apparently related to one or both of these.[9] Wyndle supposes that she is partially stuck in the Cognitive Realm.[10]
Notes
- ↑ The Way of Kings interlude I-7#
- ↑ a b Oathbringer chapter 111#
- ↑ The Way of Kings chapter 61#
- ↑ Oathbringer chapter 114#
- ↑ Words of Radiance interlude I-14#
- ↑ Oathbringer interlude I-5#
- ↑ The Great American Read: Other Worlds with Brandon Sanderson
— Arcanum - 2018-10-25# - ↑ Edgedancer chapter 1#
- ↑ Words of Radiance interlude I-9#
- ↑ Edgedancer chapter 4#