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The '''Old Magic''' is one of the magical systems in effect on [[Roshar]].
 
The '''Old Magic''' is one of the magical systems in effect on [[Roshar]].
   
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In one of the Interludes in The Way of Kings, Baxil speaks about the boon and curse of the Old Magic, as well as the residency of the [[Nightwatcher]] in the Valley. Av says "It's not a game, no matter how the stories try to put it. The Nightwatcher doesn't trick you or twist your words. You ask a boon. She gives what she feels you deserve, then gives you a curse to go along with it. Sometimes related, sometimes not."
 
In one of the Interludes in The Way of Kings, Baxil speaks about the boon and curse of the Old Magic, as well as the residency of the [[Nightwatcher]] in the Valley. Av says "It's not a game, no matter how the stories try to put it. The Nightwatcher doesn't trick you or twist your words. You ask a boon. She gives what she feels you deserve, then gives you a curse to go along with it. Sometimes related, sometimes not."
   
In '''[[Words of Radiance]]''', it is indicated that [[Taravangian]], king of [[Kharbranth]], asked a boon of the [[Nightwatcher]]: 'The capacity to save this world from destruction.' It claims he was given that capacity and, with it, created the [[Diagram]]. The [[Diagram]] is a combination augury and plan written in a language created by [[Taravangian]] himself for the purpose which laid out how he could save [[Roshar]]. The curse that came with his boon is indicated to be that he is not always in possession of such capacity, and that his compassion for the results of the decisions he makes varies conversely with his level of logical reasoning. Some days he is as dull-minded as a [[Parshman]] and brought easily to tears as he realizes decisions he makes may bring death to innocents, while on others he is more intelligent and able-minded than the greatest scholar but regards everything he is ordering done with cold logic and an eye for the bigger picture of Roshar. As yet, he has had only one day of perfect mental capacity and he constantly wishes for just one more chance with such capability. {{cite}}
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In '''[[Words of Radiance]]''', it is indicated that [[Taravangian]], king of [[Kharbranth]], asked a boon of the [[Nightwatcher]]: 'The capacity to save this world from destruction.' It claims he was given that capacity and, with it, created the [[Diagram]]. The Diagram is a combination augury and plan written in a language created by [[Taravangian]] himself for the purpose which laid out how he could save [[Roshar]]. The curse that came with his boon is indicated to be that he is not always in possession of such capacity, and that his compassion for the results of the decisions he makes varies conversely with his level of logical reasoning. Some days he is as dull-minded as a [[Parshman]] and brought easily to tears as he realizes decisions he makes may bring death to innocents, while on others he is more intelligent and able-minded than the greatest scholar but regards everything he is ordering done with cold logic and an eye for the bigger picture of Roshar. As yet, he has had only one day of perfect mental capacity and he constantly wishes for just one more chance with such capability.{{book ref|sa3|i|5}}
   
 
In '''[[Oathbringer]]''', it is revealed that the Nightwatcher is to the [[Shard]] [[Cultivation]] as the [[Stormfather]] is to [[Honor]]. We also learn that there is no record of anyone ever having had their curse lifted, though this clashes with [[Dalinar]]'s experience, as his memories of his wife, which had been stripped from him by the Old Magic's curse, begin slowly returning for unknown reasons. It is revealed that the returning memories were part of his curse, that he would remember how she had died.
 
In '''[[Oathbringer]]''', it is revealed that the Nightwatcher is to the [[Shard]] [[Cultivation]] as the [[Stormfather]] is to [[Honor]]. We also learn that there is no record of anyone ever having had their curse lifted, though this clashes with [[Dalinar]]'s experience, as his memories of his wife, which had been stripped from him by the Old Magic's curse, begin slowly returning for unknown reasons. It is revealed that the returning memories were part of his curse, that he would remember how she had died.
   
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The precise wording of her request is unknown, but [[Lift]] believes that "she was supposed to stay the same, and the world was supposed to change around her."{{book ref|edgedancer|1}} Lift interprets this to mean that she shouldn't age, which does not appear to be the case. The boon and curse are unknown, but Lift's abilities to physically touch [[Wyndle]] and to digest food into [[Stormlight]] are apparently related to one or both of these.{{book ref|wor|i|9}} Wyndle supposes that she is partially stuck in the Cognitive Realm.{{book ref|edgedancer|4}}
Lift is said to have gone to the nightwatcher and asked to not age or stay small. It is believed that the reason that she can metabolize food into stormlight and touch windle is part of her boon and curse although the specifics are not mentioned.
 
 
 
 
   

Revision as of 21:58, 7 October 2018

Old Magic
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Prerequisites unknown
Type unknown
World of Origin Roshar
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The Old Magic is one of the magical systems in effect on Roshar.

Little is known about the Old Magic. It is mentioned only in passing in The Way of Kings as Dalinar explains how he gained something but lost all memories of his wife by striking a deal with a powerful spren known as the Nightwatcher. In one of the Interludes in The Way of Kings, Baxil speaks about the boon and curse of the Old Magic, as well as the residency of the Nightwatcher in the Valley. Av says "It's not a game, no matter how the stories try to put it. The Nightwatcher doesn't trick you or twist your words. You ask a boon. She gives what she feels you deserve, then gives you a curse to go along with it. Sometimes related, sometimes not."

In Words of Radiance, it is indicated that Taravangian, king of Kharbranth, asked a boon of the Nightwatcher: 'The capacity to save this world from destruction.' It claims he was given that capacity and, with it, created the Diagram. The Diagram is a combination augury and plan written in a language created by Taravangian himself for the purpose which laid out how he could save Roshar. The curse that came with his boon is indicated to be that he is not always in possession of such capacity, and that his compassion for the results of the decisions he makes varies conversely with his level of logical reasoning. Some days he is as dull-minded as a Parshman and brought easily to tears as he realizes decisions he makes may bring death to innocents, while on others he is more intelligent and able-minded than the greatest scholar but regards everything he is ordering done with cold logic and an eye for the bigger picture of Roshar. As yet, he has had only one day of perfect mental capacity and he constantly wishes for just one more chance with such capability.[1]

In Oathbringer, it is revealed that the Nightwatcher is to the Shard Cultivation as the Stormfather is to Honor. We also learn that there is no record of anyone ever having had their curse lifted, though this clashes with Dalinar's experience, as his memories of his wife, which had been stripped from him by the Old Magic's curse, begin slowly returning for unknown reasons. It is revealed that the returning memories were part of his curse, that he would remember how she had died.

The precise wording of her request is unknown, but Lift believes that "she was supposed to stay the same, and the world was supposed to change around her."[2] Lift interprets this to mean that she shouldn't age, which does not appear to be the case. The boon and curse are unknown, but Lift's abilities to physically touch Wyndle and to digest food into Stormlight are apparently related to one or both of these.[3] Wyndle supposes that she is partially stuck in the Cognitive Realm.[4]


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