Talk:Aon

Missing Aon images

• There are images of several Aons in the tenth anniversary glossary that aren't on the wiki. Could somebody please create images for these Aons? (I don't know how to do it): Aon Ake, Aon Are, Aon Dii, Aon Eda, Aon Ehe, Aon Eno, Aon Kae, Aon Toa. Thank you! TomPN (talk) 03:33, 23 March 2017 (MST)

Just adding that Aon Soo is missing Haelbarde (talk)

Reorganize Aon list

As it's currently laid out, the list of Aons is a bit unwieldy; the table of contents encroaches on the body of the article and the mix of images, quotes, section titles, and normal text makes it oddly spaced and difficult to read. On top of this, most individual Aons don't really have enough information associated with them to merit a full section anyway. I propose reformatting the page so that notable Aons (e.g. ones that are significant to the story or have long descriptions -- Aon, Ashe, maybe Daa, Ene, Nae, Omi, Rao, Reo, Shao, Tae, and Tia is my extremely rough list) get their own sections, followed by a table (with columns for name, picture, meaning, examples, and extra info) for the rest. I can make the edits myself, but I didn't want my first edit on the wiki to be a complete overhaul of a major page without at least getting some feedback first. Thoughts? Everlastingwonder (talk) 02:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Coppermind! I've had similar thoughts about this article before, but never came up with a method I liked for reorganizing it. The Coppermind's Keepers have been talking, and we like your idea, but we'd like a bit more time to think about some of the details. We can sometimes forget to come back to discussions that we table, so if you don't hear more in a week or so, feel free to give us a nudge either here or in the Coppermind editors Discord (though we're pretty excited about this, so we should be good about staying on top of it). If you have any further thoughts, like how a table should be formatted, feel free to chime in on that as well (or if you have ideas about anything else, of course). In the meantime, we'd also like to say thank you for pointing out this issue and for looking for feedback before making sweeping changes. Happy editing!

--Stargazer (talk) 08:29, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Okay, so we really like this idea. The one sort of tweak is that we'd like to put all Aons in the table, so that it's sort of like a complete dictionary. So, any Aons with too much detail to all fit in the table would get both a table entry and a section or something elsewhere with additional information. The one other concern we have is getting the table to look right. To that end, I've thrown together some markups here. I'm not exactly a design expert though, and I'm sure you probably have some ideas too, so we'd love to hear your thoughts. Once that's settled, I think you'll be good to go ahead and do this.

--Stargazer (talk) 00:26, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Possible Aons

Based on the vowels (a,e,i,o) and consonants (d,h,k,l,m,n,p,r,s,sh,t) used in Aons so far, the number of each in each Aon (two vowels, one consonant) and the number of ways they can be combined (vowel-vowel-consonant, vowel-consonant-vowel, consonant-vowel-vowel), there are 4x4x11x3 (4 possibles for the first vowel, 4 possibles for the second vowel, 11 possibles for the consonant, and 3 ways they can be arranged) possible Aons, or 528.

Aon Aeo proves that three-vowel Aons are also possible; there are 4x4x4 = 64 possible three-vowel Aons.

All together, this means there are 528+64 = 592 possible Aons, without introducing more vowel or consonant sounds. TomPN (talk) 17:25, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

TomPN, interesting to know, though I think for the purpose of anything we could put on the Coppermind, it'd be unduly speculative to use those numbers, since I don't think we know if all possible combinations are used or whether there might be additional sounds (entirely possible I'm forgetting and missing some WoB, in which case I'm happy to be corrected).

--Stargazer (talk) 04:41, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Aon Shao

I feel that was a valid interpretation of that illustration. We don't know the specifics of the curse that Tress was going to be subjected to but Charlie's obviously transformed him into a rat. All the other surrounding Aons most likely deal with what the curse transforms one into and the criteria and restrictions on breaking/fulfilling it. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 04:18, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

The image, however, explicitly does not show the curse she was to put on Tress, but instead a spell used in her battle with Hoid. Therefore, I question its actual accuracy. Firesong (talk) 05:37, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

I disagree. If you look at her outstretched arm and its relationship to the Aons, Hoid, and Tress it and the Aons are oriented towards Tress while Hoid is coming in from the side, surprising Riina, and throwing up the Edo Aon (supplemented with what looks like Daa Aons for power) that protected Tress as described in the book. She doesn't have a battle with Hoid; he stops the curse and from their it's just dialogue. The only contradiction is that the text describes Hoid imposing himself between Tress and Riina instead of off to the side but the way the illustration is drawn clarifies that Riina is targeting Tress with the Aonic formation. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 05:48, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

I just find it questionable to use the art in Tress as a form of undeniable canon. These aren't as focused on being informative a things such as the Folios, Sketchbooks, and such from Stormlight. These are just illustrations of Howard Lyon's personal interpretation of scenes. Firesong (talk) 06:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)