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:: Or two dashes and four tildes (<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>)--[[User:Fbstj|Joe ST]] ([[User talk:Fbstj|talk]]) 18:35, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
:About Elhokar's Shards, it's not like the Alethi elite to give them to charity, so they would undoubtedly pass down to a close relative. And since it didn't go down to Dalinar's line, the only eligible son would be Elhokar. So I agree the Shards probably belonged to Gavilar before Elhokar. Emphasize the "probably" though, it's still all too possible that's not how it went down until Brandon tells it's so. If you'd like to add that to Elhokar's article, maybe you could describe the chain of logic that leads you to your conclusion and use a wording that can't be interpreted as absolute fact.--[[User:Cem|Cem]] ([[User talk:Cem|talk]]) 18:52, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
== Tense ==
Hey Cem, I think that you may be off in how you're interpreting use of tense. Feel free to correct me if you have some higher knowledge of this, but [[Coppermind:Style]] is pretty clear that present tense is the default, so far as I read it. Stuff that ''happens'' or "''is''" in the books is present tense, while only "history" sections that are recounted as historical should be in past.
I actually agree with your reversion in the [[Amydlatn]] article, since it's recounted as past tense in the book, but the reason you gave is not correct. So yes, "events in the past in the books" should be past tense, but not just all "events". "Shallan soulcasts a goblet to blood" is an event, but ought to be recounted in the present tense.
Forgive me if this was your intent all along and I simply misread you.
--[[User:Kurkistan|Kurkistan]] ([[User talk:Kurkistan|talk]]) 21:15, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
:I disagree with the reversion. I think it should still be present tense, it is still during the time frame of the books and it isn't part of a history section. That article is short enough that it feels disjointed that it isn't all one tense, especially since the tense change isn't designated by a section change (i.e. History section header)--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 23:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
::Man, here I was trying to be all reasonable, but I'll cede the point and acknowledge my initial rightness, Weiry. ;) --[[User:Kurkistan|Kurkistan]] ([[User talk:Kurkistan|talk]]) 15:18, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
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