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{{row/kv|Featured In|''[[Mistborn: Secret History]]''}} |
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| + | |This is the in-between step. After death and before ... the Beyond. The Somewhere Else. Where souls must go. |
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| + | |[[Leras]] explaining the relationship between the [[Cognitive Realm]] and the Beyond to [[Kelsier]]{{msh ref|1|1}} |
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| ⚫ | The '''Beyond''' is an unknown location that the people of the [[cosmere]] are drawn to after they die.{{msh ref|1|1}} Almost nothing is known about the Beyond, as not even [[Harmony]]—and presumably all other [[Shard]]s—is able to reach it.{{wob ref|6556}}{{wob ref|2717}}{{msh ref|6|9}}{{book ref|mb6|28}} [[Leras]] occasionally refers to the Beyond as the '''Somewhere Else'''.{{msh ref|1|1}} |
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| − | ==Transportation== |
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| + | When a person dies, their mind is transported to the [[Cognitive Realm]], though they are not always visible to other people in the Cognitive Realm.{{wob ref|11427}} For most people, this is nothing more than an "in between" step, as their mind is soon pulled into the Beyond.{{msh ref|1|1}} When they go to the Beyond, they appear to stretch toward an unseen, distant point that defies geometry that has also been described as "nothingness" and "eternity."{{msh ref|6|8}}{{msh ref|1|2}}{{msh ref|6|2}} People on [[Scadrial]] appear to turn into white mist as they stretch.{{msh ref|1|1}} Before someone moves on to the Beyond, their Cognitive aspect can be returned to their physical body with the proper [[Investiture]].{{wob ref|5888}}{{book ref|mb6|28}}{{book ref|sa2|88}}{{book ref|sa2.5|8}} Being killed by [[Nightblood]] can prevent that from happening,{{wob ref|10440}} though it is unclear if it also prevents a person's mind form going to the Beyond. |
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| + | [[Allomancy|Allomancers]], [[Feruchemy|Feruchemists]], and people who had a [[Hemalurgy|Hemalurgic]] spike in life can remain in the Cognitive Realm longer before being pulled to the Beyond, while those where were the victim of a Hemalurgic spiking cannot remain as long.{{msh ref|1|1}}{{wob ref|1528}} [[Silver]]s can resist the pull of the Beyond indefinitely, though they can still choose to go and still feel the pull of the Beyond when seriously wounded.{{msh ref|6|8}} From this, it is possible to infer that the amount of [[Investiture]] a person has or had in life determines the length of time for which they can resist the pull of the Beyond.{{wob ref|11427}} |
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| − | When a person dies, their mind is transported to the [[Cognitive Realm]] temporarily before their "body" stretches toward a location that has been defined as: "toward an unseen, distant point that defies geometry", and has also been described as "nothingness" and "eternity." The transition takes longer for [[Allomancy|Allomancers]] and [[Feruchemy|Feruchemists]] (and presumably anyone holding [[Investiture]] in life). |
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| + | [[Ruin]] claims that [[Mare]] "longed for [[Kelsier]] to join her in the Beyond," but it seems likely that he was simply lying to manipulate Kelsier and dos not actually have knowledge of the Beyond.{{msh ref|4|4}} |
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| + | While trapped in the [[Well of Ascension]], Kelsier refers to Ruin as "the thing Beyond,"{{msh ref|2|1}} but this is likely a misnomer as a Shard's power is concentrated in the [[Spiritual Realm]].{{wob ref|6304}}--> |
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| − | It is possible to infer that Mistborn last longer than Mistings, as they have more Investiture in life than the weaker Mistings. Additionally, it is also possible that people with many Hemalurgic spikes (like [[Marsh]]) last longer than even Mistborn do. |
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| − | Those who have held a massive amount of Investiture in their life and have become [[Sliver|Slivers]] are able to resist the pull into the Beyond, although they can go willingly if they so choose. {{book ref|msh|8|6}} |
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| − | People who have a [[Hemalurgic]] spike in themselves spends a longer time in the Cognitive Realm before being drawn to the Beyond.{{wob ref|1528}} Inversely, those who have died as a result of having their power taken away by a spike spend a very short time before going.{{wob ref|1528}} |
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| − | ==Known Travelers== |
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| + | While all people who are not Silvers must go to the Beyond when they finally die,{{msh ref|1|1}} the transitions of the following people to the Beyond have been observed: |
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* [[Vin]] |
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* [[Elend]] |
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* [[Goradel]] |
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| − | * To see people who have just died in the Cognitive Realm before they travel to the Beyond, a person has to be in a specific state.{{wob ref|11427}} |
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== Notes == |
== Notes == |
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Revision as of 19:28, 28 May 2020
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| Featured In | Mistborn: Secret History |
“This is the in-between step. After death and before ... the Beyond. The Somewhere Else. Where souls must go. ”
The Beyond is an unknown location that the people of the cosmere are drawn to after they die.[1] Almost nothing is known about the Beyond, as not even Harmony—and presumably all other Shards—is able to reach it.[2][3][4][5] Leras occasionally refers to the Beyond as the Somewhere Else.[1]
Transportation
When a person dies, their mind is transported to the Cognitive Realm, though they are not always visible to other people in the Cognitive Realm.[6] For most people, this is nothing more than an "in between" step, as their mind is soon pulled into the Beyond.[1] When they go to the Beyond, they appear to stretch toward an unseen, distant point that defies geometry that has also been described as "nothingness" and "eternity."[7][8][9] People on Scadrial appear to turn into white mist as they stretch.[1] Before someone moves on to the Beyond, their Cognitive aspect can be returned to their physical body with the proper Investiture.[10][5][11][12] Being killed by Nightblood can prevent that from happening,[13] though it is unclear if it also prevents a person's mind form going to the Beyond.
Allomancers, Feruchemists, and people who had a Hemalurgic spike in life can remain in the Cognitive Realm longer before being pulled to the Beyond, while those where were the victim of a Hemalurgic spiking cannot remain as long.[1][14] Silvers can resist the pull of the Beyond indefinitely, though they can still choose to go and still feel the pull of the Beyond when seriously wounded.[7] From this, it is possible to infer that the amount of Investiture a person has or had in life determines the length of time for which they can resist the pull of the Beyond.[6]
Known Travelers
While all people who are not Silvers must go to the Beyond when they finally die,[1] the transitions of the following people to the Beyond have been observed:
Trivia
- The relation between the Beyond and the God Beyond, like most questions about the Beyond, is currently RAFO'd.[15]
Notes
- ↑ a b c d e f g Mistborn: Secret History part 1 chapter 1#
- ↑ Calamity Chicago signing
— Arcanum - 2016-02-22# - ↑ When Worlds Collide 2014
— Arcanum - 2014-08-09# - ↑ Mistborn: Secret History part 6 chapter 9#
- ↑ a b The Bands of Mourning chapter 28#
- ↑ a b Skyward Pre-Release AMA
— Arcanum - 2018-10-27# - ↑ a b Mistborn: Secret History part 6 chapter 8#
- ↑ Mistborn: Secret History part 1 chapter 2#
- ↑ Mistborn: Secret History part 6 chapter 2#
- ↑ Shadows of Self release party
— Arcanum - 2015-10-05# - ↑ Words of Radiance chapter 88#
- ↑ Edgedancer chapter 8#
- ↑ Idaho Falls signing
— Arcanum - 2018-07-21# - ↑ Arcanum Unbounded Chicago signing
— Arcanum - 2016-12-06# - ↑ Calamity Chicago signing
— Arcanum - 2016-02-22#