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=== Lumar ===
==== Tress ====
He holds enough respect for Tress and her adventure that he sees her as very mature and talented for her age,{{book ref|tress|epilogue}} and he remembered her adventure and told it and told the tale years to decades after they parted.{{book ref|tress|epilogue}}{{wob ref|15442}} Though he still felt that she didn't have the right to give him commands, but ultimately obliged due to her being his captain.{{book ref|tress|64}} He has kept tabs on her and the rest of the crew of the Crow's Song for several years after his curse was broken.{{book ref|tress|epilogue}}
Tress knew Hoid as a cabin boy on Diggen's Point, and a member of the Crow's Song. Though, for much of their relationship, she held little respect for him due to the effects of the curse Riina put on him.{{book ref|tress|22}}{{book ref|tress|23}} She eventually came to see him as a means to an end for finding Charlie.{{book ref|tress|22}} Her opinion on him greatly changed after he saved her from Riina after his curse was broken, though she still viewed him as a member of her crew and thus under her command.{{book ref|tress|64}}
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