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:: I apologize if I come off as rude, I mean no rudeness or disrespect.
:: <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Firesong]] 15:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</small>
::: Okay, so a lot happened here. First of all, I agree that the quote establishing Aux as a highspren and the Skybreaker glyph forming behind Sigzil is sufficient evidence that he was a Skybreaker through his bond to Aux; I'm pretty confident that the rest of the [[Coppermind:Keepers|Keepers]] would agree with that as well. [[User:WhateverComic07|WhateverComic07]], thank you for pulling that quote and for wanting to help the wiki more generally, we could always use more editors and you weren't in the wrong place at all! Also, as a general note to people, please remember to sign your comments with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> to automatically add your username and a timestamp.
::: [[User:Jamcdonald|Jamcdonald]], if you want to dispute that conclusion further, you're welcome to do so, but I'm going to say that the page should still call Sigzil a Skybreaker unless and until an affirmative consensus that the citations don't support that develops (i.e., please don't change Skybreaker to something else just because you find new evidence that you think cuts against that position; wait to see what other people think of it first).
::: A large part of the reasoning behind that condition is that just going back and forth with reverts is generally not the best way to resolve disagreements; I can't say I'm impressed with either of you, [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] and [[User:Jamcdonald|Jamcdonald]]. Neither of you put any explanation at all in both of your [[Special:Diff/185966|first]] [[Special:Diff/185967|reverts]], which is important so that the other editor can understand ''why'' you think their edit is wrong. Reinhartmax, I don't think your [[Special:Diff/185968|eventual comment]] that you were reverting because "Links are wrong and information is taken out for no reason" was really helpful either; while (as Firesong noted) there were some minor issues with the links, that's not something that you would need to revert the whole edit over and I'm not seeing anything that was "taken out" that didn't stem from Jamcdonald's challenges to the accuracy of the page, in which case the helpful thing to do in reverting would be to explain why you think those parts of the page were indeed accurate. If you both had given more justification for your reverts, we might have gotten to having an actual conversation on this talk page sooner, rather than going through several reverts.
::: [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]], I'd also caution both of you to make sure that you're not also accidentally reverting other changes in situations like this. [[Special:Diff/185966|Your]] [[Special:Diff/185968|reverts]] removed another editor's [[Special:Diff/185963|addition]] about why the Night Brigade is still chasing Sigzil even though he no longer has the Dawnshard, which I assume was unintentional.
::: In short, please be more thoughtful when reverting edits in the future, both of you; future edit wars like this would probably be likely to result in blocks, at least from the page in question. If you have any questions, please feel free to get in touch with me on my talk page.
::: --[[User:Stargazer|Stargazer]] ([[User talk:Stargazer|talk]]) 17:56, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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