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== Splinters and Spren ==
Didn't we have WoB at one stage that Spren are Splinters of Honour? They're currently not listed in this section, so I'll try to hunt down the relevant interview, assuming it wasn't pre 17th shard and unarchived. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
 
: Spren are part Honor and part Cultivation (Save Voidspren), so they are not entirely of Honor (except perhaps the Honorspren). <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/192.107.136.154]] 14:52, 10 January 2023 (UTC)</small>
 
== "Ruin and Preservation can both whisper into the minds of humans." ==
== Odium ==
 
For Odium, world should have a note saying "formerly Ashyn" <small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.167.178.149]] 20:17, 9 December 2022 (UTC)</small>
 
:There's a lot of discussion going on with 'world' parameter at the moment as it has started causing some problems. Odium's page doesn't currently have this parameter on his infobox - at least for now, while we are figuring out how to proceed, it would be best to leave the page as it is (with the 'world' parameter blank). Although, if you have any suggestions about how we could improve the parameter and make it clearer/more efficient, please feel free to PM your thoughts through to myself or another Keeper on Discord (or on the Shard or a user talk page here). Cheers [[User:LadyLameness|LadyLameness]] ([[User talk:LadyLameness|talk]]) 21:25, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 
== Possible new shard ==
 
I have a guess about one of the unnamed shards. This guess was inspired by a single sentence from "Tress and the Emerald Sea". I'll only quote the first half of the sentence to avoid any other story details that may be spoilers but the full sentence was found on page 347 of the pdf ebook. <s>I couldn't figure out how to put spoiler tags so, just in case, I'm going to put several returns so the sentence I partially quote will be far below:</s> I'm sorry if this is not the right way to go about sharing this information I've never edited a wiki or posted in a wiki discussion before. The sentence starts "But if ever there were proof that Fate herself had placed long odds against [...]" The reason I believe this to be evidence for a new unnamed shard is the fact that "Fate" was capitalized as if it is a proper noun and is immediately followed by the pronoun "herself" as well as the context of the story in which this quote is found. --[[Special:Contributions/204.113.253.63|204.113.253.63]] 06:14, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 
: That is not enough to count as a new Shard, it is way, way too little. It also does not fit with the information we have of the other two. It is also, in context, clearly about Fate as a general concept, metaphorically embodied into a figure, rather than a Shard.--[[User:Firesong|Firesong]] ([[User talk:Firesong|talk]]) 22:20, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 
:: I struck the bit about the quote being several lines down and placed a spoiler tag at the top of the page. Beyond that, while it's possible this is the finalized Intent for the Wisdom/Prudence/"hide and survive" Shard, I agree with Firesong that it's too thin a statement for us to consider it the canonization of a new Shard; there's lots of other things it could be (e.g., a personification of fate as a concept or some other non-Shard entity, like how Tress refers to "Death himself[, with] nails in his eyes"). --[[User:Stargazer|Stargazer]] ([[User talk:Stargazer|talk]]) 23:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 
::: Also, I think the level of ambiguity, of the "I think sometimes..." sort of thing, makes it seem like he wouldn't know. When he knew every Vessel before they Ascended, and has some form of contact with most (surviving) Shards even after it. Seems like it isn't a specific Shard, given that. --[[User:Firesong|Firesong]] ([[User talk:Firesong|talk]]) 23:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC)