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== Patji ==
 
"Patji is a Shard of Adonalsium."
 
"Patji is a Shard of Adonalsium."
   
 
https://wob.coppermind.net/events/256-oathbringer-london-signing/#e8606
 
https://wob.coppermind.net/events/256-oathbringer-london-signing/#e8606
   
I saw this while reading WoBs, and attempted to add this. However, I couldn't figure out how the references work. Could someone more experienced add this as an eleventh known Shard?
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:: I saw this while reading WoBs, and attempted to add this. However, I couldn't figure out how the references work. Could someone more experienced add this as an eleventh known Shard?
   
:Patji is an avatar of Autonomy, not a new Shard. --[[User:Jofwu|Jofwu]] ([[User talk:Jofwu|talk]]) 19:27, 26 April 2018 (MST)
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::: Patji is an avatar of Autonomy, not a new Shard. --[[User:Jofwu|Jofwu]] ([[User talk:Jofwu|talk]]) 19:27, 26 April 2018 (MST)
 
 
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== Harmony ==
   
 
Someone ought to add Harmony to the list of shards.
 
Someone ought to add Harmony to the list of shards.
*My understanding was that Sazed held Ruin and Preservation, and wasn't able to unite them due to their opposed nature. Thus Harmony is just a nickname for Sazed-as-Ruin-and-Preservation, not an actual united shard. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
 
   
 
: My understanding was that Sazed held Ruin and Preservation, and wasn't able to unite them due to their opposed nature. Thus Harmony is just a nickname for Sazed-as-Ruin-and-Preservation, not an actual united shard. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
-He describes mingling them in HoA and all creatures on Scadrial are mingling so it is likely that they have been mixed into harmony
 
 
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:: He describes mingling them in HoA and all creatures on Scadrial are mingling so it is likely that they have been mixed into harmony
   
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== Dominion ==
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The sixth reference supposedly supports assertions about another shard being revealed (dominion). But the linked interview doesn't mention shards or dominion anywhere.
 
The sixth reference supposedly supports assertions about another shard being revealed (dominion). But the linked interview doesn't mention shards or dominion anywhere.
   
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== Splinters and Spren ==
   
 
Splinters and Spren: Didn't we have WoB at one stage that Spren are Splinters of Honour? They're currently not listed in this section, so I'll try to hunt down the relevant interview, assuming it wasn't pre 17th shard and unarchived. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
 
Splinters and Spren: Didn't we have WoB at one stage that Spren are Splinters of Honour? They're currently not listed in this section, so I'll try to hunt down the relevant interview, assuming it wasn't pre 17th shard and unarchived. --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.101|198.41.238.101]] 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
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According to SoS, only Ruin can whisper. Preservation can only read mind.
 
According to SoS, only Ruin can whisper. Preservation can only read mind.
   
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== Patternspren Shard? ==
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Do the Patternspren get a shard? Could that explain epigraph 11 in Way of Kings?
 
Do the Patternspren get a shard? Could that explain epigraph 11 in Way of Kings?
   
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== Domi = Dominion Correction ==
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The article's suggestion that Domi is short for Dominion seems implausible, as Domi matches Devotion much more closely. (Jaddeth, on the other hand, is presumably based on Dominion.) Furthermore, it is explicit in the list of Aons that Domi comes from Aon Omi, meaning love.
 
The article's suggestion that Domi is short for Dominion seems implausible, as Domi matches Devotion much more closely. (Jaddeth, on the other hand, is presumably based on Dominion.) Furthermore, it is explicit in the list of Aons that Domi comes from Aon Omi, meaning love.
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:Yeah I just removed that line. That's just plain wrong, and never should have been added.--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 19:31, 17 December 2016 (MST)
 
:Yeah I just removed that line. That's just plain wrong, and never should have been added.--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 19:31, 17 December 2016 (MST)
   
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== Trell ==
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Is Trell a Shard?
 
Is Trell a Shard?
   
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== Splinters ==
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The divine Breath that Returned hold ... and the Aon within a Seon ... are the only confirmed Splinters" - aren't spren also splinters of honor?
 
The divine Breath that Returned hold ... and the Aon within a Seon ... are the only confirmed Splinters" - aren't spren also splinters of honor?

Revision as of 01:41, 7 December 2022

Patji

"Patji is a Shard of Adonalsium."

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/256-oathbringer-london-signing/#e8606

I saw this while reading WoBs, and attempted to add this. However, I couldn't figure out how the references work. Could someone more experienced add this as an eleventh known Shard?
Patji is an avatar of Autonomy, not a new Shard. --Jofwu (talk) 19:27, 26 April 2018 (MST)

Harmony

Someone ought to add Harmony to the list of shards.

My understanding was that Sazed held Ruin and Preservation, and wasn't able to unite them due to their opposed nature. Thus Harmony is just a nickname for Sazed-as-Ruin-and-Preservation, not an actual united shard. --198.41.238.101 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)
He describes mingling them in HoA and all creatures on Scadrial are mingling so it is likely that they have been mixed into harmony

Dominion

The sixth reference supposedly supports assertions about another shard being revealed (dominion). But the linked interview doesn't mention shards or dominion anywhere.


Splinters and Spren

Splinters and Spren: Didn't we have WoB at one stage that Spren are Splinters of Honour? They're currently not listed in this section, so I'll try to hunt down the relevant interview, assuming it wasn't pre 17th shard and unarchived. --198.41.238.101 13:33, 16 August 2015 (MDT)

"Ruin and Preservation can both whisper into the minds of humans."

According to SoS, only Ruin can whisper. Preservation can only read mind.

Patternspren Shard?

Do the Patternspren get a shard? Could that explain epigraph 11 in Way of Kings?

Domi = Dominion Correction

The article's suggestion that Domi is short for Dominion seems implausible, as Domi matches Devotion much more closely. (Jaddeth, on the other hand, is presumably based on Dominion.) Furthermore, it is explicit in the list of Aons that Domi comes from Aon Omi, meaning love.

Yeah I just removed that line. That's just plain wrong, and never should have been added.--WeiryWriter (talk) 19:31, 17 December 2016 (MST)

Trell

Is Trell a Shard?

Splinters

The divine Breath that Returned hold ... and the Aon within a Seon ... are the only confirmed Splinters" - aren't spren also splinters of honor?

Threnody

According to WoB, Threnody doesn't have a shard. So why is Ambition shown to be on Threnody?

Take a look: http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kw=threnody

Ambition has been dead for a long time, so "world" should probably be N/A rather than Threnody. But I imagine that Threnody is listed because that's where Ambition fought Odium, and chunks of Ambition's power were ripped off and have probably had lasting effects on Threnody, and might still be lingering? --Shroom (talk) 18:37, 4 November 2017 (MST)
I'm not allowed to edit this page, but it could be something like "Unknown. Threnody (formerly)."?
Threnody is listed due to the fact that portions of Ambition's power were ripped out and Invested into Threnody causing "Disturbing effects", likely referring to Shades and the Evil, and a perpendicularity of "morbid origin". I feel it is safe to say Ambition is basically invested into Threnody, albeit in a strange manner. --Firesong (talk) December 6th, 2022