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:: What other character's are named duke? To my knowledge there are no others and a simple redirect would resolve the issue regardless. I am also unaware of any other characters who have their relationship to another be their title rather than their given name in the story. As well as this the style guide itself very clearly states the convention is to use title's in this scenario, in fact the style guide from my reading of it makes 0 mention whatsoever about using a character's relationship with another as their title. It seems very clear that convention would be to refer to them as 'duke.' If anything referring to the character as Charlies father would be more confusing to a user since he is consistently referred to as the duke throughout the text. If someone wanted information on the character it would make the most sense to search them under what the story calls them.--[[User:Debarra|Debarra]] ([[User talk:Debarra|talk]]) 19:31, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
:::There is a prominent duke in Elantris who is often referred to as "the duke". (and a few other minor characters who are dukes it seems) Policy reasons aside, that's the main practical argument for this particular decision. Or at least, I assume that was the primary reason. Like I said, this was a public discussion so I can't speak to the reasons for everyone who voiced their opinion. I don't think there's any disagreement that "duke" should redirect to [[Charlie's father]], so this shouldn't cause any confusion or difficulty for people trying to find the article.
:::Regarding the style guide policy, I apologize--I was mistaken, this point is not outdated. Regardless, it does sound like the intent with the policy is to use titles with surnames when a first name is not known. We will need to clarify that, it looks like. We do still think that our typical method of referring to relations for entirely unnamed characters is best. We'll have to add that to the style guide because, as I mentioned, this is standard for characters with no known name. There's not any characters who use a relationship as an article title rather than a given name. The issue here is that the duke doesn't have an in-world name given.--[[User:Jofwu|Jofwu]] ([[User talk:Jofwu|talk]]) 21:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
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