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I've added the information on Aon Eto and Aon Ate. I'm wary about Aon Iam because it does have the same meaning as a published Aon.--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 23:13, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 
== Split into aon pages ==
 
So, we already have pages for each of the metals, and we have loads of single-line character pages. I was thinking we should split these up onto `Aon X` pages, like the `Seon X` pages we've started making, and then make [[AonDor]] into a similar page as the [[Allomancy]] and [[Feruchemy]] pages which have a table of metals which link to the actual articles. This would make this article into a disambiguation page? Anyone with opinions? I know you seem to like long pages for text-search reasons, Eric, and I don't really know what to say about that. --[[User:Fbstj|Joe ST]] ([[User talk:Fbstj|talk]]) 05:28, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
:I don't really see the need for that personally. Most of these would just end up as really short articles, we don't have in depth info on more than like three or four of them. It just seems like a waste to me, currently. But then again, we have an article for every spren xD --[[User:Windrunner|Windrunner]] ([[User talk:Windrunner|talk]]) 05:46, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
:: That is my point, consistency XD --[[User:Fbstj|Joe ST]] ([[User talk:Fbstj|talk]]) 05:50, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
:I personally feel that Characters and Places are notable in and of themselves as special terms. If someone searched for a random place on Roshar, I want that place known and clearly in the search results. Especially since many places could ostensibly be expanded. There are some places that are not notable enough to have their own article, such as individual Ashmounts. I would reserve judgment that in Stormlight Archive, properties of individual spren could be expanded upon.
:So, you talk of consistency. Well, what be our policy? I would say that this question should be deferred, as it will be very difficult to make a totally consistent policy on that. This is part of our problem in determining whether those random pieces of literature in Way of Kings should warrant their own article. That is a discussion we should have, but do ''not'' simplify it as you are both doing. It is very much not that easy. Largely it will come down to how we decide which pages are not notable enough for their article, and instead should be listed in an index. That's... tough. As I said, right now Characters and Places almost always have their own article, without exception (the only exception I can think of are the literature writers, for characters, and the Ashmounts for Places). I see no reason why we could not make this future policy dependent on which high level content category we are in.
:With that out of the way, on the matter of this specific circumstance, I would say that each individual Aon is not noteworthy of an article in of themselves. You cannot possibly equate the two sentences of an Aon to the wealth of information we have on every metal. You wouldn't make an article on each Command, would you? You would, however, probably write articles for each metal, and possibly when we more of Stormlight, for each Surge or each Order of Radiant.
:Anyway, can you tell I've had to listen lawyers all freaking week? XD The question of indices is an important one, and hey, I'll be the first to admit that we wanted character and place articles to boost the article count. But I kind of like having, say, the Rosharan category, and the Roshar category to be a complete description of characters and places there. We should probably have this conversation, because we kind of haphazardly did things in the wiki's early years. But, I largely feel we should defer this matter until we see Words of Radiance. A new book of that scale will test if our structure of the wiki has the proper expandability and adaptability we will require six books down the line. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 06:14, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
:: I agree with your point re: ashmounds, and I kinda do like some index articles (for example, [[Shai]]'s modes, the people of [[Armedius Academy]], maybe even [[Stephen Leeds]]' aspects, and the [[Rithmatics]] lines and things. But also, there are a few of the Aon's that have a few paragraphs of content; it might be worth making at least a few Aon X articles? Considering that some of these 'indexes' have chunks of content, it might be viable/policy to indexify the spren stuff? --[[User:Fbstj|Joe ST]] ([[User talk:Fbstj|talk]]) 06:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Wow, Chaos... That's quite a block of text. Reading it though, I can't say I find anything there I disagree with. I am vehemently opposed to making a spren index though. I like the little articles, and we're only going to get more details as the series goes on, such as what fabrials they're used in, properties of the spren, what form they bond with Parshendi to make, etc. In reality, the only three Aons worthy of their own page are the ones Brandon expanded on for the Badali jewelry page. I could see making a separate article for them, but they still need a place on the main index, with one of those little italicized, "main article" links, in my opinion. --[[User:Windrunner|Windrunner]] ([[User talk:Windrunner|talk]]) 06:53, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
:Hopefully you don't mind me intruding on this discussion. I personally do not think we should split the Aons into their own articles. I wrote this article, and the Rithmatics one, the way I did for ease of use. If someone comes to the wiki wanting to learn everything we know about the different Aons I don't think they should have to click through however many pages, the information should be on one. Likewise I don't think most spren should have their own articles (I was planning on doing a mock-up of a index page for spren like I did with the Aons when I got around to re-reading WoK which will be sooner than later at this point). There is probably more I could say about the subject but I don't want to get too persnickety so I'll leave it at that.--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 15:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 
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