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I've added the information on Aon Eto and Aon Ate. I'm wary about Aon Iam because it does have the same meaning as a published Aon.--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 23:13, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 
I've added the information on Aon Eto and Aon Ate. I'm wary about Aon Iam because it does have the same meaning as a published Aon.--[[User:WeiryWriter|WeiryWriter]] ([[User talk:WeiryWriter|talk]]) 23:13, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
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So, we already have pages for each of the metals, and we have loads of single-line character pages. I was thinking we should split these up onto `Aon X` pages, like the `Seon X` pages we've started making, and then make [[AonDor]] into a similar page as the [[Allomancy]] and [[Feruchemy]] pages which have a table of metals which link to the actual articles. This would make this article into a disambiguation page? Anyone with opinions? I know you seem to like long pages for text-search reasons, Eric, and I don't really know what to say about that. --[[User:Fbstj|Joe ST]] ([[User talk:Fbstj|talk]]) 05:28, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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Merge with list?

Is there a reason why this page and the List of Aons page are separate? It seems to me they should be combined.--WeiryWriter (talk) 23:19, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I think this page is supposed to talk about the science of Aon's where as the list discusses particulars. It might be better if they get merged though. Any opinions? --Joe ST (talk) 11:16, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
What do you mean about the "science of Aons"? I move that we delete this list. There's not really a huge amount of usefulness in putting the Aons in order of appearance, in my opinion. A comprehensive alphabetical list is better overall. However, there might be something useful in an Aon article, discussing the symbols themselves and their origin, rather than listing them, so I don't think we should do away with this article completely, simply rework it into a more useful form. --Windrunner (talk) 13:51, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
I didn't really mean science, more what you said; history, general stuff, etc.. not really describing it well but heh --Joe ST (talk) 14:31, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
I fully support merging List of Aons with this article. I think "Aon" should be the article we go with on that one. -- Chaos2651 (talk) 20:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm working on a mock-up of a new Aon page at the moment, will post on my user page when I get a little farther.--WeiryWriter (talk) 22:14, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay I've finished with the mock-up of the new article (User:WeiryWriter/Aon) If anyone can think of anything else to add it would be helpful. Or I can go ahead and shift it to here.--WeiryWriter (talk) 19:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

His/Her vs. Their

So, Joe made a couple alterations to the article, namely changing "his or her" to "their." Now I have always learned that this is incorrect, their is not singular. I discussed it with him over chat but he suggested that we get some outside input because neither one of us is going to agree the other. I think we should stick with more formal language for the wiki and as such use correct grammar.--WeiryWriter (talk) 16:35, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Where as I am taking wikipedia's stance as 'their' fits both and is just better reading. --Joe ST (talk) 17:29, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Grammar Girl recommends using "they," and I trust her judgment. Her rationalization is very good and she takes into account many style guides. I do not think we should use overly formal speech on the wiki. Since style guides cannot agree on a solution, I suggest we go with their. It is easier to write and easier to read. -- Chaos2651 (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Okay I read the Grammar Girl article and she mentions it is better to have a convention that people disagree with than to have no convention which I can agree with. I still totally disagree on using they/their but if that is the convention that is decided then so be it.--WeiryWriter (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Deleted Scenes

So I finally got around to reading the Elantris deleted scenes and found a couple facts that could be added to this article.

"A triangle with wing-like protrusions from the side: Aon Eto." from [1]

and

"An Ate Seon can make a room completely silent for a short time, an Iam Seon age an object or person by a few years." from [2]

I'm wondering how to handle the latter because Aon Iam is listed as meaning "Age" in the glossary on Brandon's Website but in the back of the book Glossary (and the article) Aon Ire has age as one of its meanings. How should this be handled?

Also, the coppermind stance on this sort of stuff is "use it unless it is contradicted by published canon" correct?--WeiryWriter (talk) 20:21, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

You could probably get away with adding it, as long as you make a footnote explaining that the material is from a deleted scene, and not necessarily canon. --Windrunner (talk) 05:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I've added the information on Aon Eto and Aon Ate. I'm wary about Aon Iam because it does have the same meaning as a published Aon.--WeiryWriter (talk) 23:13, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Split into aon pages

So, we already have pages for each of the metals, and we have loads of single-line character pages. I was thinking we should split these up onto `Aon X` pages, like the `Seon X` pages we've started making, and then make AonDor into a similar page as the Allomancy and Feruchemy pages which have a table of metals which link to the actual articles. This would make this article into a disambiguation page? Anyone with opinions? I know you seem to like long pages for text-search reasons, Eric, and I don't really know what to say about that. --Joe ST (talk) 05:28, 24 July 2013 (UTC)