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Thinking about jumping into the chasm again, Kaladin instead climbs down the other Bridgemen following. [[Syl]] worried about his behavior asks him what is wrong with him and he tells her how he could have beaten all four soldiers and she recalls in the conversation that she has helped men kill before but that she doesn't remember more. He tells her that he didn't fight the soldiers because it wouldn't have done any good and that he now believes his [[Lirin|father]] was wrong in implying that there were other ways to protect people. Syl wonders if that was the reason why he didn't accept the glory all those month ago, but Kaladin tells her, that that was for different reasons.
While working Rock wanders how they'll fight next. When Kaladin remarks that there is no next fight Rock reminds him that his survival through the [[Highstorm]] was already a miracle. But Kaladin tells him that he considers it more like a curse. A curse that lets him survive when all the others die. After hearing that Rock withdrew troubled. Later, while scavenging Teft comes up to Kaladin. Kaladin tells him he doesn't want to talk but when Teft persists Kaladin burst out that he doesn't know and they they are all going to die anyway. The others stare at him in shock.
Calling him an idiot Teft wants to know why Kaladin is abandoning them now. Kaladin tells him that he can't find any possible way for them to survive. Teft points out that that might not be the point. Kaladin wants to know what the point is if not surviving and Teft says they shouldn't give up, that they should fight till the arrow gets them. That he quotes “''Journey before destination''” When Kaladin asks what that means [[Sigzil]] tells him that it is part of the Creed of the [[Knights Radiant|Lost
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