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Is there any reason why it’s not ok to list all of the characters for a book in the characters section? I went through a lot of trouble to compile all of the characters Who were missing from the character list of Elantris only to have them removed with the only reason given on the edit list being a notification that there was no reason to list them all. If possible I’d like a clarification as to the exact reasoning, maybe something more specific as to what constitutes a character who is allowed to be on a character list in the first place as a lot of the deleted characters weren’t even ones that I had added in the first place. [[User:Animalia555|Animalia555]] ([[User talk:Animalia555|talk]]) 17:47, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 
:Hi there! I'm so glad you registered an account so we can finally chat about this. I figured it was all the same person, but with anonymous IPs that sometimes change, it's hard to tell.
 
:I realize the book pages are not super great on the Coppermind and need work. I'd still like to explain the perspective as to why I did that. I don't believe a Characters section on a book page should be an exhaustive list of every character in the text. Indeed, the section is called Main Characters. The proper location for lists like that would be categories, in this case [[:Category:Selish]] for all people on Sel. (This does have a slight drawback in that this includes Emperor's Soul characters, but there are not too many of those.) Categories have a lot of value as they don't require maintenance from editors other than making sure when a new article is made, it goes in the right category. For characters, that happens automatically with the character infobox. Having a list on a book or series page is suboptimal as it would require an editor to go through and make sure every character is listed there. Categories render that work unnecessary. I realize this kind of sucks if you collated all those characters; categories aren't necessarily the most obvious thing on here. For that, I'm sorry.
 
:I don't think it's a good policy to list every character that appears in a book on its respective book page. Think if we did that for Way of Kings. That would be a massive list that really, a category should be used for instead. I think having only a list of prominent characters on a book page is useful. I removed the Other Characters section as they seemed to be the less prominent ones. There is also an aesthetic argument for articles to generally contain prose, and not lists. For similar reasons, we only put prominent characters on the navboxes--the boxes at the bottom of the page.
 
:Ultimately we should probably have a link to the category on the Main Character section on books so people can easily find the entire list. Though one does exist on the navbox (click Characters on the Elantris navbox), I've added that here to the character section. --[[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 04:43, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 
At least with Elantris it’s easy to tell who the main characters are due to the triad system. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.58.249|172.68.58.249]]
 
== Please explain! ==
Hi, Eric! Please explain why have you removed me from the editors? I can't create any new pages now! --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 08:20, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
: Hi! Which pages need creating, in your opinion? Windrunner added this so you could make your talk pages and we'd like to just see how things progress before giving blanket page creation ability. Most pages should ideally exist already. Please feel free to contact us, or for live feedback, come in our [https://discord.gg/zyJMB2d Discord server] where many staff can answer your questions-- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 08:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
:: I will try if the forums would let me log in. Turns out, I may need to re-create an account on there. Thanks for the help! Who stole that username Auri? Auri has always been my username for a long time. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 08:29, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
::: Auri is a character in Kingkiller Chronicles, and I imagine plenty of places on the internet people have that username. Sorry! Also, can I please recommend you not use your automated tool for adjusting typos here? I've noticed it has adjusted things on talk pages that are other people's replies, and it is generating objectively wrong grammar changes like changing "slimfish" to "slim fish". Please disable those here, thanks! -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 08:32, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
:::: Sorry, I cannot do that. I won't do it on talk pages but I need to do it on articles. Everyone else appreciates me fixing grammar. If I do make a mistake, please let me know! --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 08:36, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
::::: Please do not take offense, but the automated tool you are using on articles actively has required us to clean up most edits you have done. For example it changed "metalminds" to "metal minds" which clearly is incorrect given how it is written in Era 1. Obviously, this is fantasy, so things probably won't be in the dictionary. We do not want to have to need to closely scrutinize all your edits for such errors. Turn it off; you've made errors already. Please go look in your contrib list and see that many of your edits have needed to be altered, and I believe this tool is the cause. It is not being helpful. I'm sorry if this hurts your workflow, but we pride ourselves on accuracy towards the text, and such automated edits show your plugin is not sophisticated enough here to deal with the made-up words that will be commonplace here. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 08:58, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 
== Healing spike ==
 
You may be interested in my response to your comment at [[Talk:Steel Inquisitor]]. - [[User:Ebmid2|Ebmid2]] ([[User talk:Ebmid2|talk]]) 01:03, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 
:I have now edited my response, by the way. - [[User:Ebmid2|Ebmid2]] ([[User talk:Ebmid2|talk]]) 07:52, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 
== Why can’t I create my user page? ==
 
When I look at my user page when I am not logged in, it says that the page should be created by me. But, when I’m logged in, it says I can’t create the page. Can you help? I’d like to create my user page. [[User:WingJay|WingJay]] ([[User talk:WingJay|talk]]) 16:35, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 
Hey WingJay! This is due to a permissions issue but should be all fixed - you should be able to create pages (including your userpage) now. :) Let me know (or someone else of course) if you're still having issues and we can look into it for you. Cheers! [[User:LadyLameness|LadyLameness]] ([[User talk:LadyLameness|talk]]) 03:47, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 
Thanks! The problem is fixed now!
—WingJay [[User:WingJay|WingJay]] ([[User talk:WingJay|talk]]) 16:16, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 
== Featured in ==
Can you explain to me why you removed the books that things were featured in? --[[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 00:46, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
:The purpose of that is not to list every instance a thing was in. That's obviously going to be untenable as the cosmere progresses, given what happened in TLM, and we'll have to create new policy on that. Let's discuss in Discord. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 00:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
: Also, as we have had to repeatedly talk to you about, you tend to add superfluous stuff to infoboxes that have often needed to be reverted, so I do think let's discuss how this goes rather than unilaterally choosing what is best might be good. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 00:53, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
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