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:::: Debarra, you attribute much more "policy" than truly exists for the world parameter. We do need to figure more concrete guidance for what precisely these parameters mean (along with Featured In) exactly indicate now that time things will have immense planetary crossover. As Lady Lameness said, these infoboxes do not state what precisely to do here. This is complex. And yes, we do need to figure out guidance for worldhoppers as well. This is a tricky question that we need to resolve, especially as characters can be in different worlds at different times. It is clear you feel strongly, and it is noted. But you still ascribe much more policy than things being ad-hoc over the last decade implies. Stay tuned for future guidance, but let's not adjust this for now. Featured In and world are a mess to resolve, and will only get more complicated as things go on. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 05:14, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Okay, I think this needs to be taken down a notch - I have tried to answer your questions and if you have more then let's work through them, but I was really not expecting to come back to this and be yelled at, nor am I interested in continuing to discuss it if you're unable to do so in a civil manner.
As I mentioned before there are multiple parameters that we are currently having to re-evaluate because it's become clearer over the past few releases that they are more ambiguous than intended - this is in large part why things aren't 100% uniform across pages. However, that doesn't change the fact that the initial purpose of the 'world' parameter was intended to reflect the in book locations on the Shard pages. This is not a new suggestion, it's the original idea. That doesn't mean that it's perfect, nor does it mean that it is currently - or always will be - the best way to display information - like I mentioned before, there are other infobox parameters we are having to re-evaluate because they don't work as well as originally intended, there's no reason this one can't be re-looked at as well. The books have clearly moved on from easter egg appearances and there's going to be a lot more than just these things that need to be adjusted on the wiki to compensate moving away from relatively self-contained worlds. But there are a lot of pages that will be affected by structural changes, particularly ones made to infoboxes (and mandatory parameters specifically) and worldhoppers are going to be specifically difficult to deal with. Otherwise wouldn't it be easier to change the six pages you've brought up as being different, instead of the changing ten pages that are currently in line with previous decisions? You have good points, but there is more to a change like this than you're implying.
There's obviously a lot you've brought up that I could respond to but honestly after the tone in your last message, I'm not willing to spend more of my Tuesday evening digging into them if I don't think you're actually going to be a team player. I can help create a change proposal if you want - we can set up a separate talk or user sub-page and go through more of the nitty gritty and work out potential implementation and any run off issues that might occur. There may also be another solution that comes up (eg. is there an alternative title that is clearer or a different parameter that would work better? Do we need a 'world' parameter? etc). But I do need to know you are willing to come to the table, collaborate, and work with me, not against me. [[User:LadyLameness|LadyLameness]] ([[User talk:LadyLameness|talk]]) 06:42, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
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