Editing User talk:Reinhartmax

== Categories and Infoboxes ==
Reinhartmax, we appreciate all of the great work you've been doing so much, but I wanted to ask if you could be a bit less aggressive with the mechanical changes--particularly involving infoboxes and categorization. We generally like to discuss these kinds of things before making lots of changes. Some of these edits that you've done have been great, but others we've disagreed with--and it's a drain on your time and ours when we have to go through dozens of articles undoing something. In some cases where we have been inconsistent there may have been a reason for it. And in others, it's possible that the example you're going off of is in error. So I just want to ask that if you think you see changes that need to be made to infoboxes/categories, we'd appreciate if you could run it by us in Discord first. Thanks! --[[User:Jofwu|Jofwu]] ([[User talk:Jofwu|talk]]) 19:39, 3 November 2018 (MST)

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Reiterating Jofwu's point, we appreciate your work. The work on Arcanizing WoBs has been great. But you have recently been making several changes which have required reverting, mostly relating to Voidbinding. It's great that you want to help fill out missing information on the Coppermind! However, some of the information you've been adding has been speculation or factually inaccurate. In particular with Voidbinding, it is emphatically not clear that the Fused are actually utilizing it. These relationships are unclear and we're uncomfortable with these suppositions. In addition, we'd strongly prefer you not make additional categories without talking about it first. I think all these situations will totally be resolved if we talked more and we worked more synergistically. You also added some tags to Shards and I reverted them; I don't think the fact that Edgli having a letter in OB counts for "Featured In". This would be a wonderful thing if we could just discuss these changes rather than you unilaterally changing them.

To that end, we'd really appreciate to hear from you with a response to Jofwu and I's message so we can work together. We're concerned because our previous attempts at communication on these issues have not yielded any discussion or change in editing behavior. Come edit here, or come on [https://discord.gg/KEv3fhN Discord] to talk further. If we don't hear from you we will temporarily disable edit rights. Thank you! I know Discord has made our Keeper team work 10,000x more efficiently and with more communication we can do great things. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 14:45, 16 January 2019 (MST)

== Surge pages ==

Please discuss large structural changes to magic systems in Discord. The Surgebinding vs. Surge discussion has been one of much debate. However, I do not think separate Surge pages are correct in the current state. It is likely your edits will be reverted. Not that Surgebinding's page is great. Some stuff needs to be moved over to a Surge page, but individual Surge pages don't seem effective, at least in the current stage. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 20:02, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

:Just to follow up, thegatorgirl has placed a temporary editing lock on your account for one week to encourage you to go onto Discord and communicate/discuss changes with the community. Making large scale structural changes without discussion will lead to them being reverted, so do please join us. Or post thoughts on talk pages, or something. Then we can all come up with something that works and makes sense for everyone. We're all in it together. -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 08:50, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

== Fortune / Spiritual Realm stuff ==

Hey Reinhartmax. I feel bad reverting the Fortune edits you made. Hopefully my comment made sense as to why I feel these should be separate. I do think there should be some sort of place where we can have stuff on accessing the Spiritual Realm. Maybe you could move that stuff over to a section on the Spiritual Realm page, called maybe Accessing the Spiritual Realm? All the stuff you listed is definitely accessing the Spiritual, we just don't have confirmation that all that stuff is definitely Fortune. We don't want to waste work, after all! :)

Later this week I will look in more detail and try to add relevant WoBs from what you wrote there. Cheers! -- [[User:Chaos2651|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651|talk]]) 20:15, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

== Rudeness towards other members ==
Hi Reinhartmax, it is an expectation of those who use this site to be courteous to other members and to treat them with respect. Passive aggressive comments in summary boxes are not in line with our [https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/89568-17s-code-of-conduct/#comment-975377 Code of Conduct] and are not acceptable. If you find yourself frustrated by other people's edits, take a step back and a breather - staff look through all edits and part of our job is to help out with fixing small stylistic changes. Regards, [[User:LadyLameness|LadyLameness]] ([[User talk:LadyLameness|talk]]) 22:27, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

== TLM and Spoiler Tags ==
Hey Reinhartmax! Just wanted to reach out with a friendly reminder to please make sure to tag pages with {{t|spoilers|mb7}} when you're adding information from ''The Lost Metal'' and the page doesn't already have a tag. I know it may seem weird for minor things, but people have a wide range of feelings about spoilers and our approach is to tag everything. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions and happy editing!<br />
--[[User:Stargazer|Stargazer]] ([[User talk:Stargazer|talk]]) 23:41, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

== Importing WoB ==

Hey Reinhartmax,

I had just noticed there that you had imported a great deal of wob's, all of which seemed to be from my current draft page. May I enquire as to why as I was leaving those wob's unimported purposefully and all of them were only used in my draft space, of which I have no recollection of ever opening up to editing from other users.

--[[User:Debarra|Debarra]] ([[User talk:Debarra|talk]]) 16:40, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Sorry. Didn't know you wanted them unimported. I also didn't edit your draft space. Just imported wobs. I'll ignore them in the future. --[[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 16:58, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

: Thanks. Just for the future if something is linked solely to someone's draft space and nowhere else usual WikiEtiquette is to leave it/treat it as if it is in their draft space.--[[User:Debarra|Debarra]] ([[User talk:Debarra|talk]]) 17:16, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

== The Shao Aon edit ==

Hi, Reinhartmax! I was just wondering, why did you undo my edit? I made it clear that it wasn't explicitly said in the text, and it seems to be worth a mention. [[User:Adamkarma|Adamkarma]] ([[User talk:Adamkarma|talk]]) 20:17, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

:Because articles should be written as if they are in-world. Something like that should be in trivia or something similar.--[[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 20:57, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

== Mass Editing ==

Hey Reinhartmax! Just wanted to reach out to say that we ask people not to make changes to articles en masse like you're currently doing by updating the <code>books</code> parameter to <code>first appeared</code> because doing so makes Recent Changes much less usable and creates a significant burden on Keepers, who have to manually patrol each edit. I'm going to place a temporary block on your account in a moment to ensure that you see this message while you're in the middle of editing; just acknowledge this message (you'll still be able to reply here) and I'll lift the block. --[[User:Stargazer|Stargazer]] ([[User talk:Stargazer|talk]]) 21:01, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
:Gottcha. So how should I be updating this then?--[[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 21:04, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
:: The plan is to just let them slowly be updated over time, whenever someone is otherwise editing the page (e.g., [[Special:Diff/191016]]); I know that means things will be inconsistent for a while, but this isn't really an area where consistency is super important. --[[User:Stargazer|Stargazer]] ([[User talk:Stargazer|talk]]) 21:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

== On Heat ==
(referring to your edit note) Yes, it could be that, my whole issue is, I am not sure what to call the Investiture that is present on Canticle. Because it ''is'' a form of Investiture we haven't seen, as we can tell by its colour and the effect it has on Shades and such not aligning with any Investiture we know. So how should we label that? I feel that we shouldn't just leave it unlisted as it ''is'' a form of Investiture still. [[User:Firesong|Firesong]] ([[User talk:Firesong|talk]]) 17:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
:Oh. Are you referring to the sunlight when you mean heat? I thought you meant the heat that the people were transferring via touch. I'm not exactly sure how to label it but you're right, it should probably be there.--[[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 17:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
:: I was referring to their innate Investiture as I interpret their innate Investiture as being of the planet. Given it is associated with heat, and the Investiture is associated heavily with heat. But I guess that is ultimately an assumption. Hmmm... Not sure how to handle this conundrum. As we didn't really get a name for it. Maybe just say "unknown" or something like that. [[User:Firesong|Firesong]] ([[User talk:Firesong|talk]]) 17:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
::: Edit: I included it as Unknown. [[User:Firesong|Firesong]] ([[User talk:Firesong|talk]]) 17:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)