Editing Talk:Sand mastery

== Initiation ==

Rather than continually editing the page itself I felt it appropriate to bring the discussion to the talks page and look for other opinions. The Ars Arcanum for Elantris does state "How, then, is a practitioner of AonDor Initiated? It does not appear tied to family descent, as one finds on Scadrial, nor is it a specific Shard's decision as on Nalthis. Even Taldain's and Vax's methods do not seem to apply here." My reading of this is that Taldain is distinct from Sel's, Scadrial's and Nalthis' method as Taldain is mentioned separately to the other methods. It seems clear to me personally that Khriss is bringing Taldain up as unique to the other systems rather than solely Sel's. What do others think? --[[User:Debarra|Debarra]] ([[User talk:Debarra|talk]]) 26th Dec 2020


: Hey, you're right this is a better method to talk through this. :) I would disagree with your interpretation - it's saying that A is different to B, C, and D; it isn't commenting on how B, C, and D relate to each other though, only how they relate to A. I don't think we can extrapolate on the relationships between the other three systems outside of how they relate to Sel without further information. [[User:LadyLameness|LadyLameness]] ([[User talk:LadyLameness|talk]]) 02:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

:: I would still disagree with that interpterion as the quote seems to differentiate between the other magic systems listed. It mentions that Scadrials system and Nalthis' are distinct from each other. The mention of Taldain within the quote is drawing another possible way of initiation, its being raised as a different way it can be done. The use of "even" and the rest of that sentence to me seems to be used as a distinction on those methods as unique from being chosen purely from the Shard or purely genetic. --[[User:Debarra|Debarra]] ([[User talk:Debarra|talk]]) 27th Dec 2020
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	:: I would still disagree with that interpterion as the quote seems to differentiate between the other magic systems listed. It mentions that Scadrials system and Nalthis' are distinct from each other. The mention of Taldain within the quote is drawing another possible way of initiation, its being raised as a different way it can be done. The use of "even" and the rest of that sentence to me seems to be used as a distinction on those methods as unique from being chosen purely from the Shard or purely genetic. --[[User:Debarra\|Debarra]] ([[User talk:Debarra\|talk]]) 27th Dec 2020		:: I would still disagree with that interpterion as the quote seems to differentiate between the other magic systems listed. It mentions that Scadrials system and Nalthis' are distinct from each other. The mention of Taldain within the quote is drawing another possible way of initiation, its being raised as a different way it can be done. The use of "even" and the rest of that sentence to me seems to be used as a distinction on those methods as unique from being chosen purely from the Shard or purely genetic. --[[User:Debarra\|Debarra]] ([[User talk:Debarra\|talk]]) 27th Dec 2020
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−	::: The weird thing, though, is that sand mastery is at least believed to be genetic by the sand masters, since Kenton's Darksider mom is supposedly why he was weaker. Maybe Khriss knows more, but it is weird, so perhaps interpreting things narrowly is best. -- [[User:Chaos2651\|Chaos2651]] ([[User talk:Chaos2651\|talk]]) 19:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)