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'''Vyre's knife''' is a golden, or yellowish-white, blade, with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to kill the [[Herald]] [[Jezrien]].{{book ref|sa3|121}}
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'''Vyre's knife''' is a bright golden or yellowish-white blade with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to kill the [[Herald]] [[Jezrien]] and trap his soul so that he couldn't be reborn.{{book ref|sa3|121}} The metal of the knife is described as unusually bright.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
   
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The knife may be made out of [[Odium]]'s [[Metallic Arts#The God Metals|god metal]], due to its similar coloring to that often associated with the Shard.{{book ref|sa3|1}}
==History==
 
The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the [[Fused]] [[Hnanan]] to [[Moash]], who then used it to kill Jezrien.{{book ref|sa3|121}} The fate of the knife following Jezrien's death is also unknown.
 
   
==Mechanics==
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== History ==
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{{image|Fallen from Grace by Soph P.jpg|side=left|width=200px|[[Hnanan]] giving the knife to [[Moash]]/Vyre}}
The knife appears to be a method to permanently kill a Herald, rather than simply returning them to [[Braize]] as a "conventional" death would. Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. Likewise [[Shalash]] instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths as she could no longer sense his soul.{{book ref|sa3|121}} This process operates under similar principles to the [[Scadrian]] manifestation of Investiture known as [[Hemalurgy]], where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's [[spiritweb]] using metal spikes.{{book ref|mb4|part=ars}} It is a matter of debate among cosmere philosophers whether this is in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.{{wob ref|8665|''Oathbringer'' London signing|date=2017-22-28}}
 
   
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The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the [[Fused]] [[Hnanan]] to [[Moash]] (later known as Vyre). Hnanan told Moash that [[Odium]] had tasked him with killing a god; Moash noted that the Fused appeared to be afraid of using the knife on Jezrien themselves. Moash then used the knife to kill Jezrien. After the murder, Moash removed the knife from Jezrien's body, but the subsequent fate of the knife is unknown.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The knife, when removed, trails a black smoke and leaves behind a blackened wound.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
 
   
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== Mechanics ==
The sapphire in the knife's hilt is specifically for Jezrien.{{wob ref|8798|''Oathbringer'' Glasgow signing|date=2017-12-02}} Whether the use of that specific [[polestone]] is mechanically relevant or only symbolic is unknown.
 
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The knife is a method to kill a Herald and trap their soul, preventing the Herald from returning to [[Braize]] as a "conventional" death would.{{wob ref|12261}} Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. [[Shalash]] likewise instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths, as she could no longer sense Jezrien's soul.{{book ref|sa3|121}} The knife "traps" the soul so it can't be reborn.{{wob ref|12261}} This process operates under similar principles to the [[Scadrian]] manifestation of [[Investiture]] known as [[Hemalurgy]],{{wob ref|8774}} where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's [[spiritweb]] using metal spikes.{{book ref|mb4|part=ars}} It would cause debate among [[cosmere]] philosophers whether the knife's magical properties are in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.{{wob ref|8665}}
   
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Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The sapphire in the knife's hilt is specifically for Jezrien.{{wob ref|8798}} Whether the use of that specific [[polestone]] is mechanically relevant or only symbolic is unknown.
==Theories==
 
It has been theorized that the knife is made of [[Odium]]'s [[god metal]], citing its golden/yellow-ish white color and the fact that Odium often manifests as a figure in gold and white and his power is often perceived as a golden light.
 
   
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The knife shares characteristics with [[Shardblade]]s, by leaving blackened wounds,{{book ref|sa1|prologue}} and [[Nightblood]], as they both bleed black smoke.{{wob ref|7374}}{{book ref|sa3|121}}
The knife may share some relation to [[Nightblood]], which is also known to cause blackened wounds and leaks a black smoke.
 
   
 
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Latest revision as of 08:07, 9 September 2020

Vyre's knife
Mad Herald by Xabi Gazte.jpg
Type Weapons
Owner Vyre
World Roshar
Universe Cosmere
Featured In Oathbringer
This article's title is uncanonical and a fan created one, because an official term or name has not been made yet.
This page or section deals with theories or speculation.
Please read carefully and note that this is not necessarily canonical.

Vyre's knife is a bright golden or yellowish-white blade with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to kill the Herald Jezrien and trap his soul so that he couldn't be reborn.[1] The metal of the knife is described as unusually bright.[1]

The knife may be made out of Odium's god metal, due to its similar coloring to that often associated with the Shard.[2]

History[edit]

Hnanan giving the knife to Moash/Vyre

The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the Fused Hnanan to Moash (later known as Vyre). Hnanan told Moash that Odium had tasked him with killing a god; Moash noted that the Fused appeared to be afraid of using the knife on Jezrien themselves. Moash then used the knife to kill Jezrien. After the murder, Moash removed the knife from Jezrien's body, but the subsequent fate of the knife is unknown.[1]

Mechanics[edit]

The knife is a method to kill a Herald and trap their soul, preventing the Herald from returning to Braize as a "conventional" death would.[3] Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. Shalash likewise instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths, as she could no longer sense Jezrien's soul.[1] The knife "traps" the soul so it can't be reborn.[3] This process operates under similar principles to the Scadrian manifestation of Investiture known as Hemalurgy,[4] where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's spiritweb using metal spikes.[5] It would cause debate among cosmere philosophers whether the knife's magical properties are in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.[6]

Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The sapphire in the knife's hilt is specifically for Jezrien.[7] Whether the use of that specific polestone is mechanically relevant or only symbolic is unknown.

The knife shares characteristics with Shardblades, by leaving blackened wounds,[8] and Nightblood, as they both bleed black smoke.[9][1]

Notes[edit]

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--WeiryWriter (talk) 11:03, 11 March 2018 (MST)