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'''Vyre's knife''' is a bright golden or yellowish-white blade with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to permanently kill the [[Herald]] [[Jezrien]].{{book ref|sa3|121}}
 
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'''Vyre's knife''' is a bright golden [[raysium]] blade with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to kill the [[Herald]] [[Jezrien]] and trap his soul so that he couldn't be reborn.{{book ref|sa3|121}}{{book ref|sa4|84}}
   
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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{{image|Fallen from Grace by Soph P.jpg|side=left|width=200px|[[Hnanan]] giving the knife to [[Moash]]/Vyre}}
The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the [[Fused]] [[Hnanan]] to [[Moash]] (later known as Vyre).{{book ref|sa3|121}} Hnanan tells Moash that [[Odium]] has tasked him with killing a god; Moash then uses the knife to kill Jezrien.{{book ref|sa3|121}} Moash removes the knife from Jezrien's body,{{book ref|sa3|121}} but the subsequent fate of the knife is unknown. Moash notes that the Fused appear to be afraid of using the knife on Jezrien themselves.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
 
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The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the [[Fused]] [[Hnanan]] to [[Moash]] (later known as Vyre). Hnanan told Moash that [[Odium]] had tasked him with killing a god; Moash noted that the Fused appeared to be afraid of using the knife on Jezrien themselves. Moash then used the knife to kill Jezrien. After the murder, Moash removed the knife from Jezrien's body, but the subsequent fate of the knife is unknown.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
   
 
== Mechanics ==
 
== Mechanics ==
The knife is a method to permanently kill a Herald, rather than simply returning them to [[Braize]] as a "conventional" death would.{{wob ref|12261}} Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. Likewise [[Shalash]] instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths, as she could no longer sense Jezrien's soul.{{book ref|sa3|121}} The knife "traps" the soul so it can never be reborn.{{wob ref|12261}} This process operates under similar principles to the [[Scadrian]] manifestation of [[Investiture]] known as [[Hemalurgy]]{{wob ref|8774}}, where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's [[spiritweb]] using metal spikes.{{book ref|mb4|part=ars}} It would cause debate among [[cosmere]] philosophers whether the knife's magic properties are in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.{{wob ref|8665}}
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The knife can kill a Herald by trapping the soul, preventing the Herald from returning to [[Braize]] as a "conventional" Herald death would.{{wob ref|12261}} Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. [[Shalash]] and [[Kalak]] likewise instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths, as they could no longer sense Jezrien's soul.{{book ref|sa3|121}}{{epigraph ref|sa4|79}}
 
Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The knife, when removed, trails dark smoke and leaves behind a blackened wound.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
 
   
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The knife "traps" the soul so it can't be reborn.{{wob ref|12261}} It functions by absorbing all of the Investiture that makes up the Cognitive Shadow of a Herald, running it down the length of the blade and into the gemstone set into the pommel.{{book ref|sa3|121}}{{book ref|sa4|84}} This process operates under similar principles to the [[Scadrian]] manifestation of [[Investiture]] known as [[Hemalurgy]],{{wob ref|8774}} where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's [[spiritweb]] using metal spikes.{{book ref|mb4|part=ars}} It would cause debate among [[cosmere]] philosophers whether the knife's magical properties are in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.{{wob ref|8665}}
The sapphire in the knife's hilt is specifically for Jezrien.{{wob ref|8798}} Whether the use of that specific [[polestone]] is mechanically relevant or only symbolic is unknown.
 
   
 
Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The sapphire in the knife's hilt is specifically for Jezrien.{{wob ref|8798}} Whether the use of that specific [[polestone]] is mechanically relevant or only symbolic is unknown.
== Theories ==
 
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It has been theorized that the knife is made of Odium's [[Metallic Arts#The God Metals|god metal]], citing its golden/yellowish-white color and the fact that Odium often manifests as a figure in gold and white and his power is often perceived as a golden light.{{book ref|sa3|1}} The metal of the knife is described as unusually bright.{{book ref|sa3|121}} Odium is active on Roshar when the knife first appears in the possession of one of his direct servants, and it is used for a task that Odium specifically requests.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
 
   
The knife may share some characteristics with [[Shardblade]]s, which cause a victim's eyes to turn black and burn out with dark smoke.{{book ref|sa1|prologue}} [[Nightblood]], a "hacked" version of a Shardblade,{{wob ref|2650}} leaks black smoke made of corrupted Investiture{{annotation ref|wb|chapter=51}} and can cause its wielder's body to turn black.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
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The knife shares characteristics with [[Nightblood]], as they both bleed black smoke and leave blackened wounds.{{wob ref|7374}}{{book ref|sa3|121}}
   
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
 
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Latest revision as of 20:22, 12 March 2024

Vyre's knife
Mad Herald by Xabi Gazte.jpg
Type Weapons
Owner Vyre
World of Origin Roshar
Universe Cosmere
This article's title is uncanonical and a fan created one, because an official term or name has not been made yet.
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Vyre's knife is a bright golden raysium blade with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to kill the Herald Jezrien and trap his soul so that he couldn't be reborn.[1][2]

History[edit]

Hnanan giving the knife to Moash/Vyre

The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the Fused Hnanan to Moash (later known as Vyre). Hnanan told Moash that Odium had tasked him with killing a god; Moash noted that the Fused appeared to be afraid of using the knife on Jezrien themselves. Moash then used the knife to kill Jezrien. After the murder, Moash removed the knife from Jezrien's body, but the subsequent fate of the knife is unknown.[1]

Mechanics[edit]

The knife can kill a Herald by trapping the soul, preventing the Herald from returning to Braize as a "conventional" Herald death would.[3] Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. Shalash and Kalak likewise instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths, as they could no longer sense Jezrien's soul.[1][4]

The knife "traps" the soul so it can't be reborn.[3] It functions by absorbing all of the Investiture that makes up the Cognitive Shadow of a Herald, running it down the length of the blade and into the gemstone set into the pommel.[1][2] This process operates under similar principles to the Scadrian manifestation of Investiture known as Hemalurgy,[5] where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's spiritweb using metal spikes.[6] It would cause debate among cosmere philosophers whether the knife's magical properties are in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.[7]

Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The sapphire in the knife's hilt is specifically for Jezrien.[8] Whether the use of that specific polestone is mechanically relevant or only symbolic is unknown.

The knife shares characteristics with Nightblood, as they both bleed black smoke and leave blackened wounds.[9][1]

Notes[edit]

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