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== Stormlight Major Characters History Status ==
 
We'd like to get these updated for the release of ''[[Rhythm of War]]''. See [[Help:Character histories]] for guidelines.</div>
 
 
'''Needs work'''
 
*[[Shallan]]: Pretty detailed until departure for Kholinar in OB, extremely light past that.
 
*[[Venli]]: Short, though I think everything's just about there. Could maybe use more detail, since she's going to be the main character.
 
*[[Eshonai]]: The basics are there, more detail might be good though. Since she's dead, maybe it's worth trying to complete this so that the only thing left after RoW is whatever flashbacks she gets?
 
*[[Navani]]: Needs help, but might not be an easy one to do&mdash;problems are a bit more structural than the other characters'.
 
*[[Renarin]]: Practically nothing from WoK or WoR, minimal OB content (Part 1 might be covered okay, but that's it). Being worked on by King of Herdaz
 
 
'''In good shape'''<br />
 
''Needs review?''
 
*[[Kaladin]]: Updated for OB by Jarno87 and Gobblinggoblin
 
*[[Adolin]]: Updated for OB by Jarno87
 
*[[Jasnah]]: Updated for OB by PiedPeterPiper
 
*[[Dalinar]]: Updated for OB by King of Herdaz
 
 
''Was good already''
 
*[[Szeth]]
 
*[[Lirin]]
 
   
 
== List of Commonly Linked to Disambigs ==
 
== List of Commonly Linked to Disambigs ==
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'''''Mistborn'''''
 
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category = Exemplary articles
 
category = Exemplary articles
 
category = Mistborn
 
category = Mistborn
 
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'''''Elantris'''''
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=== Current ===
 
=== Current ===
 
As in, actively (ish) being worked on and hopefully will be done soon.
 
As in, actively (ish) being worked on and hopefully will be done soon.
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* ''Rhythm of War''!
* Moving the list of spren to a subpage. Subpage in progress at [[User:Stargazer/Spren/Known types of spren]]; working on what would be left of the spren article at [[User:Stargazer/Spren]]. Check redirects to spren page when done; will need to be re-pointed to subpage.
 
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* Updating core cosmere articles with Grace
* Working on [[Realmatic Theory]] at [[User:Stargazer/Realmatic Theory]]
 
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** [[Investiture]] (see [[User:Thegatorgirl00/Invested Art]], [[User:Thegatorgirl00/Investiture]], [[User:Thegatorgirl00/Investiture terms]])
* Resolve open suggestions for deltion/moves/merges. Excellent progress; moved to [[Coppermind:Editor's Corner]].
 
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** [[Perpendicularity]]?
* Tweaking <code>era</code> parameters (this one's grown a bit since I started it). New {{t|era}} template is at the top of this page, doing infobox work on [[User:Stargazer/General Testing]].
 
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** [[Physical Realm]]?
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** Circle back to [[Realmatic Theory#Cognitive Realm]]?
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* Check back on current deletion/move/merge tags after RoW calms down; we tabeled a fair number until RoW
   
=== Personal ===
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=== Other/Personal ===
 
* '''Re-check the type of infobox on whatever we end up calling the article for the delver training maze after Skyward 3 comes out.'''
 
* '''Re-check the type of infobox on whatever we end up calling the article for the delver training maze after Skyward 3 comes out.'''
 
* Make sure species names and variations of "cytonic" are lowercase. Biggest offenders are probably [[:Category:Defending Elysium]]
 
* Make sure species names and variations of "cytonic" are lowercase. Biggest offenders are probably [[:Category:Defending Elysium]]
 
** Check <code>world</code> parameter; I think we said this should be homeworld, not wherever the species happens to appear.
 
** Check <code>world</code> parameter; I think we said this should be homeworld, not wherever the species happens to appear.
 
* I think there's some clean-up that could be done on high level categories (and meta categorization!); look into that some more and discuss with Keepers.
 
* I think there's some clean-up that could be done on high level categories (and meta categorization!); look into that some more and discuss with Keepers.
* Maybe update [[:File:BrandonSanderson.jpg|our picture of Brandon]], maybe with [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Sanderson_-_Lucca_Comics_%26_Games_2016.jpg this (Wikimedia Commons)].
 
 
* Organize [[Coppermind:Artists/taratjah]]'s tarot cards, but that also requires working out galleries.
 
* Organize [[Coppermind:Artists/taratjah]]'s tarot cards, but that also requires working out galleries.
 
* [[Tanavast]] and [[Honor]]: Working out the difference between Vessel and Shard pages and adding detail. Haven't actually gotten to work on this, but work in progress will be at [[User:Stargazer/Tanavast]] and [[User:Stargazer/Honor]]. See [[Rayse]] and [[Odium]] for general split between Vessel and Shard.
 
* [[Tanavast]] and [[Honor]]: Working out the difference between Vessel and Shard pages and adding detail. Haven't actually gotten to work on this, but work in progress will be at [[User:Stargazer/Tanavast]] and [[User:Stargazer/Honor]]. See [[Rayse]] and [[Odium]] for general split between Vessel and Shard.
 
* Tweaking <code>era</code> parameters (this one's grown a bit since I started it). New {{t|era}} template is at the top of this page, doing infobox work on [[User:Stargazer/General Testing]].
 
*Other articles to maybe work on some day
 
*Other articles to maybe work on some day
 
** [[Cognitive Shadow]]
 
** [[Cognitive Shadow]]
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== Small Workspace (Currently unused) ==
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== Small Workspace (Currently cosmere RoW update tracking) ==
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Code: <span style="background:#FF0000">Not Started</span>, <span style="background:#FFFF00">Started</span>, <span style="background:#00FF00">Done</span>, <span style="background:#00FFFF">Not Needed</span>, <span style="background:#FF00FF">Not Sure</span>
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*<span style="background:#00FFFF">Intro</span>
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*<span style="background:#00FFFF">Properties and Forces</span>
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**<span style="background:#FF00FF">Realms</span>
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***<span style="background:#00FFFF">Physical Realm</span>
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***<span style="background:#FF0000">Cognitive Realm</span>
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***<span style="background:#FF00FF">Spiritual Realm</span>
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**<span style="background:#FF0000">Investiture</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Adonalsium</span>
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***<span style="background:#FFFF00">Shards of Adonalsium</span>
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*<span style="background:#FF00FF">Planets</span>
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*<span style="background:#00FFFF">History</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Before the Shattering</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">The Shattering of Adonalsium</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Odium's Quest</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">The Ascension of Harmony</span>
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**<span style="background:#FF0000">Splintering of Honor and the True Desolation</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Trell and Scadrial</span>
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*<span style="background:#00FF00">Worldhoppers</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Hoid</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Worldhopping Groups</span>
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***<span style="background:#00FFFF">The Seventeenth Shard</span>
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***<span style="background:#00FFFF">Silverlight</span>
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***<span style="background:#00FF00">The Ire</span>
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***<span style="background:#00FF00">The Ghostbloods</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FF00">Other Worldhoppers</span>
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*<span style="background:#00FFFF">Development</span>
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*<span style="background:#00FF00">Bibliography of the Cosmere</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FF00">Forthcoming</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Chronological Order</span>
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*<span style="background:#00FFFF">Further Reading</span>

Revision as of 23:18, 19 November 2020

I started reading Brandon's works in 2015 and have been following the community on and off since then. I finally decided to start contributing here in 2019. I'm using this page to keep track of some #Projects and #Subpages for the larger-scale edits I'm working on, as well as for listing some miscellanious resources and notes.

I'm also a Keeper, which I guess means I'm qualified to answer questions about how to do wiki things or how to handle weird situations. Feel free to contact me on my talk page or on our Coppermind editors Discord server (I'm Stargazer#6905 there if you want to ping me or would feel better direct messaging me).

I often take inspiration for edits from things I see in Special:RecentChanges so if I edit something you just did, it's probably not because you did anything wrong, I just saw something else on the page that I thought could be improved.

My thousandth edit came in the middle of a spree to fix the book parameter in all the Skyward infoboxes (I note that only so that I can remember in five years exactly which page it was).

Navigation

Subpages


List of Commonly Linked to Disambigs

Honorable mention: Lightweaving links to the Yolish version, use Surgebinding#Illumination for the Surgebinding power and Order of Lightweavers for the order.

Exemplary Articles by Book

The Stormlight Archive

Mistborn

Elantris

Warbreaker

Shadows for Silence

Skyward

The Rithmatist

Projects

Current

As in, actively (ish) being worked on and hopefully will be done soon.

Other/Personal

  • Re-check the type of infobox on whatever we end up calling the article for the delver training maze after Skyward 3 comes out.
  • Make sure species names and variations of "cytonic" are lowercase. Biggest offenders are probably Category:Defending Elysium
    • Check world parameter; I think we said this should be homeworld, not wherever the species happens to appear.
  • I think there's some clean-up that could be done on high level categories (and meta categorization!); look into that some more and discuss with Keepers.
  • Organize Coppermind:Artists/taratjah's tarot cards, but that also requires working out galleries.
  • Tanavast and Honor: Working out the difference between Vessel and Shard pages and adding detail. Haven't actually gotten to work on this, but work in progress will be at User:Stargazer/Tanavast and User:Stargazer/Honor. See Rayse and Odium for general split between Vessel and Shard.
  • Tweaking era parameters (this one's grown a bit since I started it). New {{era}} template is at the top of this page, doing infobox work on User:Stargazer/General Testing.
  • Other articles to maybe work on some day

General quality

De-stubbing the cosmere

Last checked: 2020-07-06

Keep an Eye on

  • Category:Sidequote with lazy parameters
    • Is it worth trying to change the sidequote template to eliminate this (assuming that's what does this)? I'm not sure how helpful it is.
  • Disambiguation page links. All of the ones not in the User namespace are gone, but recheck every so often. See Category:Disambiguation pages and Special:DisambiguationPageLinks.
    • Consider making redirects to disambigs (e.g. Mistborn (disambiguation) would redirect to Mistborn) so that we can link to disambigs in hat notes without clogging the Special page.
  • Redirects for new common searches on Special:SearchStats.

Stuff Cut from Cosmere Page

Content I wrote for the new cosmere page, was too detailed, but might be useful elsewhere

Cognitive Realm
The reason for this [land/water] inversion also has something to do with how people think, as well as where they are likely to pass.[1]

Not hedging on the land/water inversion being limited to Roshar and Scadrial. Leras implies it's a universal property; nuance can be discussed elsewhere.

Spiritual Realm
Since the Spiritual Realm is not truly a place, travel to it does not so much involve literally going there, but rather seeing the various Connections of the present and into the future. For example, when Elend Venture burned atium with duralumin, he was pulled mostly into the Spiritual Realm for a moment and understood Leras' plan for the death of Ati.[2][3] Visions, such as the ones Honor left for potential Bondsmiths, almost always involved being pulled partially into the Spiritual Realm, with an additional "Cognitive framework" to provide the structure of the vision.[4]

It appears, however, that a person's accent is tied to their Identity, not the their Connection.[5] As a result, if a person forms Connection without adjusting their Identity, the person's soul will remember where they were born, and they will speak with an accent.[6] Suppressing that part of one's Identity, however, would allow one to speak with a local accent;[5] other methods may work as well.[7]

Investiture
Like regular matter and energy, Investiture, when highly concentrated, causes time dilation.[8] Any pure Investiture in a solid state is always a metal.[9] Just as matter and energy can be converted into each other, Investiture can be converted to matter or energy, and vice versa.[10] Like matter and energy, it can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed from one form to another.[11] Investiture thus adheres to the laws of thermodynamics, though, in the cosmere, there is a yet-unknown fourth law that relates to Adonalsium.[10] though the phrases "manifestations of Investiture" and "forms of Investiture" are also used [to refer to Invested Arts].[12][13]

More detailed version cut from Realmatic Theory work
In addition to having ordinary mass and energy, the cosmere also has a magical power known as Investiture. Investiture is closely tied to the Spiritual Realm,[14][15] which holds a vast reserve of Investiture,[16] but ultimately transcends the divisions between the three Realms.[14] Over time, Investiture will cycle between the Realms,[16][17] but ultimately returns to the Spiritual Realm.[18][19]

Investiture follows many of the same laws of physics that ordinary mass and energy do. Just as mass and energy can be converted to each other, so to can Investiture be converted to mass or energy, and vice versa.[20][10] Once this equivalence is accounted for, the cosmere adheres to the laws of thermodynamics,[10][11][21] though there is an additional fourth law that relates to Adonalsium.[10] Like matter and energy, high concentrations of Investiture curves space, but it primarily affects the geometry of the Realms and brings them closer together rather than creating ordinary gravitational effects. At a certain point, this effect will cause a perpendicularity to form.[22] Similarly, high concentrations of Investiture also cause time dilation,[8] though it appears that far higher concentrations than those usually found in perpendicularities are needed for this effect to become noticeable.[23][24] Investiture is quantized and has force carriers, though they act "very oddly."[15] Investiture also has a property that associates with specific Shards, though it is also still linked to Adonalsium.[25][26]

Shards
Shards can also create various constructs that will act according to rules they lay down and do not require direct action on their part to maintain. Examples of this include how Preservation set up the mists to Snap people and the visions Honor left for potential Bondsmiths.[27][28]

A Vessel's expanded mind also allows them to stretch time to fit their needs, and they can instantaneously move their focus around a world in which they are Invested.[29][30]

At least one Shard, Autonomy, has also shown the ability to create additional avatars of herself.[31] Shardic avatars appear to be personalities tied to a piece of a Shard's power that can nevertheless be disconnected from the main focus of a Shard's Investiture, allowing them to operate far from the main body of the Shard's attention and power and with a degree of independence.[32][33][26] Avatars can be created without a Shard's conscious involvement, but a Shard is always aware of his or her avatars.[34]

Odium's Impact on Selish CR
First, it made the Cognitive Realm around Sel incredibly dangerous, as Devotion and Dominion's Investiture is trapped together in a high-energy state known as the Dor, without enough "escape valves" to stabilize the system.[35][36] Second, because the Cognitive Realm was distinct locations and the Spiritual Realm does not, systems of Investiture on Sel became highly-location dependent—different systems of Investiture exist in different regions and the symbols used to access the Dor are often derived from geographical features.[35][37][38][39]

  1. Mistborn: Secret History part 3 chapter 2#
  2. Shadows of Self Chicago signing
    Arcanum - 2015-10-12#
  3. The Hero of Ages chapter 81#
  4. JordanCon 2018
    Arcanum - 2018-04-22#
  5. a b Arcanum Unbounded signing Fort Collins
    Arcanum - 2016-11-29#
  6. The Bands of Mourning chapter 22#
  7. General Reddit 2017
    Arcanum - 2017-12-18#
  8. a b Starsight Release Party
    Arcanum - 2019-11-26#
  9. Emerald City Comic Con 2018
    Arcanum - 2018-03-01#
  10. a b c d e /r/books AMA 2015
    Arcanum - 2015-07-14#
  11. a b /r/books AMA 2015
    Arcanum - 2015-03-12#
  12. The Alloy of Law Ars Arcanum#
  13. Elantris Ars Arcanum#
  14. a b Words of Radiance Houston signing
    Arcanum - 2014-03-11#
  15. a b /r/books AMA 2015
    Arcanum - 2015-05-24#
  16. a b Firefight release party
    Arcanum - 2015-01-05#
  17. Skyward Pre-Release AMA
    Arcanum - 2018-10-05#
  18. #SandersonChat Twitter Q&A with Audible.com
    Arcanum - 2016-02-04#
  19. The Bands of Mourning chapter 28#
  20. Kraków signing
    Arcanum - 2017-03-21#
  21. Salt Lake City ComicCon 2017
    Arcanum - 2017-09-21#
  22. Salt Lake City signing
    Arcanum - 2017-12-16#
  23. Oathbringer chapter 119#
  24. The Well of Ascension chapter 58#
  25. Oathbringer London signing
    Arcanum - 2017-11-28#
  26. a b /r/Cosmere
    Arcanum - 2018-03-18#
  27. Barnes and Noble Book Club Q&A
    Arcanum - 2009-07-08#
  28. The Way of Kings chapter 75#
  29. The Hero of Ages chapter 76#
  30. The Hero of Ages chapter 79#
  31. Oathbringer chapter 50 epigraph#
  32. General Reddit 2016
    Arcanum - 2016-11-28#
  33. Oathbringer chapter 43 epigraph#
  34. Prague Signing
    Arcanum - 2019-10-26#
  35. a b Arcanum Unbounded - The Selish System#
  36. /r/Stormlight_Archive
    Arcanum - 2013-03-11#
  37. The Emperor's Soul - Day 30#
  38. Elantris chapter 49#
  39. Elantris chapter 55#

Small Workspace (Currently cosmere RoW update tracking)

Code: Not Started, Started, Done, Not Needed, Not Sure

  • Intro
  • Properties and Forces
    • Realms
      • Physical Realm
      • Cognitive Realm
      • Spiritual Realm
    • Investiture
    • Adonalsium
      • Shards of Adonalsium
  • Planets
  • History
    • Before the Shattering
    • The Shattering of Adonalsium
    • Odium's Quest
    • The Ascension of Harmony
    • Splintering of Honor and the True Desolation
    • Trell and Scadrial
  • Worldhoppers
    • Hoid
    • Worldhopping Groups
      • The Seventeenth Shard
      • Silverlight
      • The Ire
      • The Ghostbloods
    • Other Worldhoppers
  • Development
  • Bibliography of the Cosmere
    • Forthcoming
    • Chronological Order
  • Further Reading