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I started reading Brandon's works in 2015 and have been following the community on and off since then. I finally decided to start contributing here in 2019. I'm new to editing wikis, so I'm mostly going to be using this page for figuring that out and drafting articles.
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I started reading Brandon's works in 2015 and have been following the community on and off since then. I finally decided to start contributing here in 2019. I'm using this page to keep some resources. I also have a few [[#Subpages|Subpages]] for working on big changes to articles that aren't ready to go in the actual article yet.
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I'm also a [[Coppermind:Keepers|Keeper]], which I guess means I'm qualified to answer questions about how to do wiki things or how to handle weird situations. Feel free to contact me on [[User talk:Stargazer|my talk page]] or on [https://discord.gg/KEv3fhN our Coppermind editors Discord server] (I'm Stargazer#6905 there if you want to ping me or would feel better direct messaging me).
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[[Special:Diff/114568|My thousandth edit]] came in the middle of a spree to fix the book parameter in all the [[Skyward (series)|Skyward]] infoboxes (I note that only so that I can remember in five years exactly which page it was).
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'''Current Projects''' (in rough priority order)
  
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*[[Judy Ivans]]: I think this is complete now, but I still need to read it through.
  
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*[[Sylphrena]] (History Section): Worked on this as my June/July objective, but didn't get far. Hopefully, I'll get back to it at some point.
  
   
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== Stormlight Major Characters History Status ==
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*[[Kaladin]]: Pretty detailed through end of OB part 1, though there might be some gaps. Nothing past that.
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*[[Shallan]]: Pretty detailed until departure for Kholinar in OB, extremely light past that.
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*[[Dalinar]]: Fairly detailed through WoR and very beginning of OB, nothing really past that.
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*[[Venli]]: Short, though I think everything's just about there. Could maybe use more detail, since she's going to be the main character.
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*[[Eshonai]]: The basics are there, more detail might be good though. Since she's dead, maybe it's worth trying to complete this so that the only thing left after RoW is whatever flashbacks she gets?
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*[[Adolin]]: Extremely detailed through WoR, OB barely started.
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*[[Szeth]]: Looks pretty good actually.
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*[[Renarin]]: Practically nothing from WoK or WoR, minimal OB content (Part 1 might be covered okay, but that's it).
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*[[Jasnah]]: Looks okay through WoR, very basics of OB look like they're there, but could use more detail.
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*[[Navani]]: In pretty good shape; some attention wouldn't hurt, but I think it'd be okay if it doesn't get much.
   
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== List of Commonly Linked to Disambigs ==
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'''Workspace (Currently for Syl)'''
  
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== History ==
  
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=== Creation & Early Life ===
  
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Sometime before the [[Day of Recreance]], [[Honor]] passed on the responsibility of creating [[honorspren]] to the [[Stormfather]], who only created a handful of spren at first, including Sylphrena. Sylphrena formed a [[Nahel Bond]] with a human who died before the Recreance, saving her from the fate of her brothers and sisters, who were all destroyed and turned into [[deadeye]]s by the [[Knights Radiant]] abandoning their oaths. The loss of her human sent Syl into a deep slumber that lasted thousands of years, during which time the Stormfather only created ten other honorspren, who in turn created the next generation and so on, making Syl one of only eleven living spren created by the Stormfather. Sylphrena was found asleep by the other honorspren, who gave her the moniker "The Ancient Daughter." Some time after awaking, around 1770, she felt drawn to Kaladin because of the protective way he treated children while he was a squad leader in [[Amaram]]'s army and, though the other honorspren told her not to do so, ran away to the [[Physical Realm]]. This escape caused the honorspren to put a sizable bounty on bringing Syl back to their capital, [[Lasting Integrity]].{{book ref|sa3|102}}{{book ref|sa3|108}}
  
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*[[Radiant]]
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*[[Sand master]]
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*[[Khal]]
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*[[Mistborn]]
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*[[Patji]]
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*[[Diagram]]
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*[[Lightweavers]]
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As is usually the case with spren, transitioning from [[Shadesmar]] to the Physical Realm made Sylphrena lose most of her cognitive ability. As a result, she lost almost all of her memories, including the knowledge that she is a honorspren, and acted much like a [[windspren]], which are considered a sort of cousin to honorspren.{{wob ref|4071}} After transitioning, Syl follows Kaladin around during his time in Amaram's army and plays tricks on him by making things stick together, which may have been uses of the Surge of [[Adhesion]].{{book ref|sa1|47}} Proximity to Kaladin slowly returned her memory and intelligence and, just before [[Tvlakv]]'s slave caravan arrives at the [[Shattered Plains]], she regains the ability to talk, though Kaladin was initially hesitant to respond, as he feared she was a sign that he was going insane. During those initial conversations, Syl struggled to understand Kaladin's depression and why humans act certain ways{{book ref|sa1|2}}{{book ref|sa1|4}}
  
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When Kaladin was exhausted after his first bridge run, she called his name and urged him to get up and move.{{book ref|sa1|6}} After a few weeks in Bridge Four, Kaladin's depression grows progressively worse, and Syl misses the old Kaladin who stood up for others. Despite the risk of breaking their nascent bond, she sets out on a journey to try to help Kaladin, though she does not explain her purpose to him and he is terrified of loosing her too.{{book ref|sa1|9}} When she returns, she finds Kaladin at the [[Honor Chasm]], prepared to kill himself by stepping over the edge. Before he can do so, she calls his name and gives him a leaf of blackbane, a deadly poison, because Kaladin had been holding on to such a leaf during his time in the slave caravan and, from her perspective, he has gotten worse since he lost that leaf. The sheer irony of her giving him a deadly poison to make him happy makes Kaladin laugh, and Syl convinces him to help others "one last time" by trying to protect Bridge Four.{{book ref|sa1|11}}
  
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'''Personal'''
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*[[Cosmere]]: Was updating some references here and saw it could use some help. See [[User:Stargazer/Cosmere]] for work in progress and Small Workspace below for outline. Mostly revisions left; hoping to wrap this up fairly soon.
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*'''Re-check the type of infobox on whatever we end up calling the article for the delver training maze after Skyward 3 comes out.'''
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*''Updating the [[:Category:Starsight|new articles from ''Starsight'']] (most pages are created, just need to be filled in):''
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**Make sure species names and variations of "cytonic" are lowercase. Biggest offenders are probably [[:Category:Defending Elysium]]
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**{{t|character}} needs to be updated for new species (and worlds?), but that's not something I'm going to try doing
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**Check <code>world</code> parameter; I think we said this should be homeworld, not wherever the species happens to appear
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*Move Death Rattles not from epigraphs from [[The Way of Kings/Epigraphs]] to [[Death Rattle]]s. Death Rattles page might need reorganizing.
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*Look into editing {{t|wob ref}} to auto-tag all articles with unimported WoBs
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*Maybe update [https://coppermind.net/wiki/File:BrandonSanderson.jpg our picture of Brandon], maybe with this: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Sanderson_-_Lucca_Comics_%26_Games_2016.jpg]
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*Upload missing Alcatraz full covers ([http://www.scottbrundage.com/book#/new-gallery/ Book 1], [http://www.scottbrundage.com/book#/new-gallery-72/ Book 2]).
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*Organize [[Coppermind:Artists/taratjah]]'s tarot cards, but that also requires working out galleries
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*Consider making redirects for commonly searched pages (see [[Special:SearchStats]]).
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*[[Tanavast]] and [[Honor]]: Working out the difference between Vessel and Shard pages and adding detail. Haven't actually gotten to work on this, but work in progress will be at [[User:Stargazer/Tanavast]] and [[User:Stargazer/Honor]]. See [[Rayse]] and [[Odium]] for general split between Vessel and Shard.
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*''Things I've noticed may need some help while working on the cosmere page and may try to work on later:''
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**[[Realmatic Theory]]
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**[[Splinter]]
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**[[Cognitive Shadow]]
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*Other articles to maybe work on some day
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**[[Elendel#Government]]
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**[[Summary:Sixth of the Dusk]]
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**[[Sigzil]]
   
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After Kaladin becomes bridgeleader, she is afraid that [[Gaz]] will try to harm Kaladin in retaliation for how Kaladin treats the bridge sergeant.{{book ref|sa1|14}}{{book ref|sa1|17}} She also begins to develop a sense of right and wrong. For example, she is glad when Kaladin pays Gaz as he had previously promised.{{book ref|sa1|17}} As her bond with Kaladin continues to strengthen, she begins to understand concepts like age and death and her cognition advances enough that she views humans as discordant because, unlike spren, they all act differently.{{book ref|sa1|17}} Still, she struggles to understand things that are totally counter to her nature as a honorspren, like why people lie.{{book ref|sa1|21}} When Bridge Four goes out to gether stones for the camp, she leads [[Lunamor]]to knobweed, the sap of which can be used as an antiseptic.
 
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*Fix [[:Category:Sidequote with lazy parameters]] ([[User:King of Herdaz]] took care of these, but check them occasionally for new ones)
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**Is it worth trying to change the sidequote template to eliminate this (assuming that's what does this)? I'm not sure how helpful it is.
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*Articles in need of help: See [[:Category:Articles in need of attention]], [[:Category:Articles in need of citations]], [[:Category:Articles in need of clarification]], [[:Category:Articles missing information]], [[:Category:Articles with disputed content]].
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*Removing disambiguation page links. All of the ones not in the User namespace are gone, but recheck every so often. See [[:Category:Disambiguation pages]] and [[Special:DisambiguationPageLinks]].
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*Check articles linking to {{t|17s ref}}, {{t|Qa ref}} (should only be User pages left), {{t|Twg ref}}, and {{t|Sots ref}}.
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*Other: See list at [[Special:SpecialPages]], especially [[Special:BrokenRedirects]] and [[Special:DoubleRedirects]].
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*Check on [[:Category:Current discussions]] tags; these can probably be removed. Also check the underlying template.
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*Find chapters for [[:Category:Chapterless references]].
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*Go through [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Merge|articles with merge suggestions]].
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*Add links to [[Summary:Skyward]].
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*Review articles. List of {{t|complete}} articles that interest me separately, but also look through the ones in [[:Category:Once reviewed]]
   
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'''De-stubbing the cosmere (Last checked 2020-02-01):'''
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*[[Coppermind:Emperor's Soul#Stubs]] (0 stubs)
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*<span style="background:#FFFF00">[[Coppermind:Mistborn Era 1#Stubs]]</span> (1 stubs)
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*<span style="background:#FFFF00">[[Coppermind:Mistborn Era 2#Stubs]] (<20 stubs)</span>
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*<span style="background:#FFFF00">[[Coppermind:Cosmere#Stubs]] (<5 stubs from short stories and general cosmere)</span>
   
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When Kaladin began to break his oaths during Words of Radiance, Syl started losing sentience, reverting back to a mindless windspren. She became more childlike, easily distracted, and lost her bond with Kaladin to the point where he could no longer draw upon Stormlight to Surgebind. When Kaladin fell into the chasm, he was able to draw one breath of Stormlight to save himself, though he heard Syl scream in his head. She did not reappear after that, and during the next highstorm, Kaladin received a vision from the Stormfather, saying that he had killed her. He was no longer able to use any Surgebinding powers, and Syl vanished. When Kaladin tried to save Elhokar from the assassination attempt, he thought the words of the First Ideal, and began to hear shouting. It resolved into Syl arguing with the Stormfather and being forbidden to return to Kaladin. Syl then told Kaladin to speak the words, and he spoke the Third Ideal of the Windrunners. Syl then reappeared and spun around Kaladin, telling him to hold out his hand. He did so, blocking Moash's Shardblade as Syl formed into a Shardblade in his hand. His Surgebinding abilities came back, and Syl was able to speak in his mind and tell him that she ''was only as dead as his oaths''.
  
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Like other larger spren, Syl could change her form, although since bonding with Kaladin, she was usually in the shape of a small, glowing woman. She had the ability to cause things to stick together which she generally used to play pranks on people. She could float or fly through the air, as well as walk sideways, and was particularly good at finding things such as when she helped search for the knobweeds and loot from the chasms for [[Bridge Four]]. She had the ability to bond with people and gain higher sentience in exchange for granting that person Surgebinding abilities, although whether this is voluntarily caused by her is unknown.
  
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As a true spren, Syl is capable of crossing into the Physical Realm to forge a Nahel bond with another sapient being. This starts the bonded creature on the path to being a Knight Radiant and grants him or her Surgebinding and the ability to breath in Stormlight, and also helps Syl regain some of the sapience and memories she lost by transitioning from the Cognitive Realm to the Physical. If the bond advances to a certain point, Syl becomes close enough to the Physical Realm that she can be summoned as a Shardblade. While in the Physical Realm, Syl can change her appearance and make herself invisible to others.
  
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Since Syl is a honorspren, those who bond with her become Windrunners, with access to the Surges of Adhesion and Gravitation.
  
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*<span style="background:#FF0000">Intro</span>
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*<span style="background:#FF00FF">Properties and Forces</span>
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**<span style="background:#FF00FF">Investiture</span>
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**<span style="background:#FF00FF">Adonalsium</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Before the Shattering</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">The Shattering of Adonalsium</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">Odium's Quest</span>
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**<span style="background:#00FFFF">The Ascension of Harmony</span>
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The Nahel bond can be broken in three main ways. One, if the Radiant dies, the bond ends; this is painful for the spren, but not deadly. Second, if the Radiant breaks his or her oaths, the spren is killed and becomes a deadeye unless the Radiant returns to the oaths. Third, Notum mentions unspecified "other ways" that work as long as the Fifth Ideal has not been sworn.
  
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'''Odium's Impact on Selish CR'''<br>
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First, it made the Cognitive Realm around Sel incredibly dangerous, as Devotion and Dominion's Investiture is trapped together in a high-energy state known as the [[Dor]], without enough "escape valves" to stabilize the system.{{au ref|Sel}}{{wob ref|4129}} Second, because the Cognitive Realm was distinct locations and the Spiritual Realm does not, systems of Investiture on Sel became highly-location dependent—different systems of Investiture exist in different regions and the symbols used to access the Dor are often derived from geographical features.{{au ref|Sel}}{{tes ref|30}}{{book ref|elantris|49}}{{book ref|elantris|55}}
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Revision as of 02:33, 27 February 2020

I started reading Brandon's works in 2015 and have been following the community on and off since then. I finally decided to start contributing here in 2019. I'm using this page to keep some resources. I also have a few Subpages for working on big changes to articles that aren't ready to go in the actual article yet.

I'm also a Keeper, which I guess means I'm qualified to answer questions about how to do wiki things or how to handle weird situations. Feel free to contact me on my talk page or on our Coppermind editors Discord server (I'm Stargazer#6905 there if you want to ping me or would feel better direct messaging me).

My thousandth edit came in the middle of a spree to fix the book parameter in all the Skyward infoboxes (I note that only so that I can remember in five years exactly which page it was).

Stormlight Major Characters History Status

  • Kaladin: Pretty detailed through end of OB part 1, though there might be some gaps. Nothing past that.
  • Shallan: Pretty detailed until departure for Kholinar in OB, extremely light past that.
  • Dalinar: Fairly detailed through WoR and very beginning of OB, nothing really past that.
  • Venli: Short, though I think everything's just about there. Could maybe use more detail, since she's going to be the main character.
  • Eshonai: The basics are there, more detail might be good though. Since she's dead, maybe it's worth trying to complete this so that the only thing left after RoW is whatever flashbacks she gets?
  • Adolin: Extremely detailed through WoR, OB barely started.
  • Szeth: Looks pretty good actually.
  • Renarin: Practically nothing from WoK or WoR, minimal OB content (Part 1 might be covered okay, but that's it).
  • Jasnah: Looks okay through WoR, very basics of OB look like they're there, but could use more detail.
  • Navani: In pretty good shape; some attention wouldn't hurt, but I think it'd be okay if it doesn't get much.

List of Commonly Linked to Disambigs

Formatting Notes

Add spaces in front of lines to create boxes like this: 

There's hidden  text here, click "edit" if you want to see how it's done
Mouseover text
When using side quotes, make sure to write "|side=left/right|size=XXXpx" (instead of "|left/right|XXXpx") to avoid the "Sidequote with lazy parameters" category
Put a : at the front of an internal link if it's to the Category namespace (otherwise you just add the article to the category)
Use — for em dashes.

Projects

Personal

General quality

De-stubbing the cosmere (Last checked 2020-02-01):

Subpages

Small Workspace (Currently for cosmere revisions)

Note: I'm not putting too much effort into layout (sidequotes and images mostly) just yet, because the text isn't set in stone steel yet and if it changes that could impact layout. I do intend to add more though, especially images.

Outline
Code: Not Started, Started, Written; Needs Extensive Revisions, Written; Needs Minor Revisions, Revised; Ready for Style Review

  • Intro
  • Properties and Forces
    • Realms
    • Investiture
    • Adonalsium
      • Shards of Adonalsium
  • Planets
  • History
    • Before the Shattering
    • The Shattering of Adonalsium
    • Odium's Quest
    • The Ascension of Harmony
    • Splintering of Honor and the True Desolation
    • Trell and Scadrial
  • Worldhoppers
    • Hoid
    • Worldhopping Groups
      • The Seventeenth Shard
      • Silverlight
      • The Ire
      • The Ghostbloods
    • Other Worldhoppers
  • Development
  • Bibliography of the Cosmere
    • Forthcoming Change this to "Forthcoming Novels"; I'm not talking about all the novellas Brandon's mentioned. Maybe add {{for|Unpublished works}}.
    • Chronological Order
  • Trivia If there's more trivia, I'd like to simplify the capitalization section to a bullet point. If not, I'd prefer to get rid of this entirely.
    • Capitalization
  • See Also Considering nixing this as well; all of these topics will have {{for}}s throughout the article. The articles (and TOC) is already pretty long.

Stuff Cut from Cosmere Page

Content I wrote for the new cosmere page, was too detailed, but might be useful elsewhere

Odium's Impact on Selish CR
First, it made the Cognitive Realm around Sel incredibly dangerous, as Devotion and Dominion's Investiture is trapped together in a high-energy state known as the Dor, without enough "escape valves" to stabilize the system.[1][2] Second, because the Cognitive Realm was distinct locations and the Spiritual Realm does not, systems of Investiture on Sel became highly-location dependent—different systems of Investiture exist in different regions and the symbols used to access the Dor are often derived from geographical features.[1][3][4][5]

  1. ↑ a b Arcanum Unbounded - The Selish System#
  2. ↑ /r/Stormlight_Archive
    — Arcanum - 2013-03-11#
  3. ↑ The Emperor's Soul - Day 30#
  4. ↑ Elantris chapter 49#
  5. ↑ Elantris chapter 55#
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