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'''Vyre's knife''' is a bright golden or yellowish-white blade with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to kill the [[Herald]] [[Jezrien]].{{book ref|sa3|121}}
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'''Vyre's knife''' is a bright golden or yellowish-white blade with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to kill the [[Herald]] [[Jezrien]] and trap his soul so he couldn't be reborn.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
   
 
== History ==
  
== History ==
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[[File:Fallen from Grace by Soph P.jpg|thumb|right|200px|<center><small>by Soph P.</small></center> [[Hnanan]] giving the knife to [[Moash]]/Vyre]]
 
The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the [[Fused]] [[Hnanan]] to [[Moash]] (later known as Vyre).{{book ref|sa3|121}} Hnanan tells Moash that [[Odium]] has tasked him with killing a god; Moash then uses the knife to kill Jezrien.{{book ref|sa3|121}} Moash removes the knife from Jezrien's body,{{book ref|sa3|121}} but the subsequent fate of the knife is unknown. Moash notes that the Fused appear to be afraid of using the knife on Jezrien themselves.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
  
The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the [[Fused]] [[Hnanan]] to [[Moash]] (later known as Vyre).{{book ref|sa3|121}} Hnanan tells Moash that [[Odium]] has tasked him with killing a god; Moash then uses the knife to kill Jezrien.{{book ref|sa3|121}} Moash removes the knife from Jezrien's body,{{book ref|sa3|121}} but the subsequent fate of the knife is unknown. Moash notes that the Fused appear to be afraid of using the knife on Jezrien themselves.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
   
 
== Mechanics ==
  
== Mechanics ==
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The knife appears to be a method to permanently kill a Herald, rather than simply returning them to [[Braize]] as a "conventional" death would. Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. Likewise [[Shalash]] instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths, as she could no longer sense Jezrien's soul.{{book ref|sa3|121}} This process operates under similar principles to the [[Scadrian]] manifestation of [[Investiture]] known as [[Hemalurgy]]{{wob ref|8774}}, where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's [[spiritweb]] using metal spikes.{{book ref|mb4|part=ars}} It would cause debate among [[cosmere]] philosophers whether the knife's magic properties are in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.{{wob ref|8665}}
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The knife is a method to kill a Herald and trap their soul, preventing the Herald from returning to [[Braize]] as a "conventional" death would.{{wob ref|12261}} Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. Likewise [[Shalash]] instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths, as she could no longer sense Jezrien's soul.{{book ref|sa3|121}} The knife "traps" the soul so it can't be reborn.{{wob ref|12261}} This process operates under similar principles to the [[Scadrian]] manifestation of [[Investiture]] known as [[Hemalurgy]]{{wob ref|8774}}, where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's [[spiritweb]] using metal spikes.{{book ref|mb4|part=ars}} It would cause debate among [[cosmere]] philosophers whether the knife's magic properties are in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.{{wob ref|8665}}
   
 
Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The knife, when removed, trails dark smoke and leaves behind a blackened wound.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
  
Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The knife, when removed, trails dark smoke and leaves behind a blackened wound.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
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It has been theorized that the knife is made of Odium's [[Metallic Arts#The God Metals|god metal]], citing its golden/yellowish-white color and the fact that Odium often manifests as a figure in gold and white and his power is often perceived as a golden light.{{book ref|sa3|1}} The metal of the knife is described as unusually bright.{{book ref|sa3|121}} Odium is active on Roshar when the knife first appears in the possession of one of his direct servants, and it is used for a task that Odium specifically requests.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
  
It has been theorized that the knife is made of Odium's [[Metallic Arts#The God Metals|god metal]], citing its golden/yellowish-white color and the fact that Odium often manifests as a figure in gold and white and his power is often perceived as a golden light.{{book ref|sa3|1}} The metal of the knife is described as unusually bright.{{book ref|sa3|121}} Odium is active on Roshar when the knife first appears in the possession of one of his direct servants, and it is used for a task that Odium specifically requests.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
   
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The knife may share some characteristics with [[Shardblade]]s, which cause a victim's eyes to turn black and burn out with dark smoke.{{book ref|sa1|prologue}} [[Nightblood]], a "hacked" version of a Shardblade,{{wob ref|2650}} leaks black smoke made of corrupted Investiture{{annotation ref|wb|chapter=51}} and can cause its wielder's body to turn black.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
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The knife may share some characteristics with [[Shardblade]]s, which cause a victim's eyes to turn black and burn out with dark smoke.{{book ref|sa1|prologue}} [[Nightblood]], an imitation of a Shardblade created using [[BioChromatic_Breath|Biochromatic Breath]],{{wob ref|2650}} leaks black smoke made of corrupted Investiture{{wob ref|7374}} and can cause its wielder's body to turn black.{{book ref|sa3|121}}
   
 
== Notes ==
  
== Notes ==

Revision as of 12:42, 29 May 2020

Vyre's knife
Type Weapons
Owner Vyre
World of Origin Roshar
Universe Cosmere
This article's title is uncanonical and a fan created one, because an official term or name has not been made yet.

Vyre's knife is a bright golden or yellowish-white blade with a sapphire set into the pommel, used to kill the Herald Jezrien and trap his soul so he couldn't be reborn.[1]

History

by Soph P.
Hnanan giving the knife to Moash/Vyre

The circumstances of the knife's creation are unknown. It was given by the Fused Hnanan to Moash (later known as Vyre).[1] Hnanan tells Moash that Odium has tasked him with killing a god; Moash then uses the knife to kill Jezrien.[1] Moash removes the knife from Jezrien's body,[1] but the subsequent fate of the knife is unknown. Moash notes that the Fused appear to be afraid of using the knife on Jezrien themselves.[1]

Mechanics

The knife is a method to kill a Herald and trap their soul, preventing the Herald from returning to Braize as a "conventional" death would.[2] Jezrien, while initially in a drunken stupor, quickly realizes that something about this death is different and claims to feel the knife drawing something from him into itself. Likewise Shalash instantly distinguishes it from previous deaths, as she could no longer sense Jezrien's soul.[1] The knife "traps" the soul so it can't be reborn.[2] This process operates under similar principles to the Scadrian manifestation of Investiture known as Hemalurgy[3], where practitioners are able to steal part of an individual's spiritweb using metal spikes.[4] It would cause debate among cosmere philosophers whether the knife's magic properties are in fact Hemalurgy or rather a related, but distinct, phenomenon.[5]

Following Jezrien's death, the sapphire set into the knife takes on a "subdued glow". The knife, when removed, trails dark smoke and leaves behind a blackened wound.[1]

The sapphire in the knife's hilt is specifically for Jezrien.[6] Whether the use of that specific polestone is mechanically relevant or only symbolic is unknown.

Theories

This page or section deals with theories or speculation.
Please read carefully and note that this is not necessarily canonical.

It has been theorized that the knife is made of Odium's god metal, citing its golden/yellowish-white color and the fact that Odium often manifests as a figure in gold and white and his power is often perceived as a golden light.[7] The metal of the knife is described as unusually bright.[1] Odium is active on Roshar when the knife first appears in the possession of one of his direct servants, and it is used for a task that Odium specifically requests.[1]

The knife may share some characteristics with Shardblades, which cause a victim's eyes to turn black and burn out with dark smoke.[8] Nightblood, an imitation of a Shardblade created using Biochromatic Breath,[9] leaks black smoke made of corrupted Investiture[10] and can cause its wielder's body to turn black.[1]

Notes

  1. ↑ a b c d e f g h i j Oathbringer chapter 121#
  2. ↑ a b Idaho Falls signing
    — Arcanum - 2018-12-29#
  3. ↑ Oathbringer signing Liverpool
    — Arcanum - 2017-11-29#
  4. ↑ The Alloy of Law Ars Arcanum#
  5. ↑ Oathbringer signing London
    — Arcanum - 2017-11-28#
  6. ↑ Oathbringer signing Glasgow
    — Arcanum - 2017-12-02#
  7. ↑ Oathbringer chapter 1#
  8. ↑ The Way of Kings prologue#
  9. ↑ San Diego Comic-Con 2015
    — Arcanum - 2015-07-09#
  10. ↑ Warbreaker Annotations
    — Arcanum - 2011-04-25#
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