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The '''Seventeenth Shard''' is a mysterious organization that, along with [[Hoid]] and the [[Shard]]s, is speculated to be influential in the overall [[Cosmere]]. They have a nonintervention philosophy.{{wob ref|date=2016-11-22|1735|Arcanum Unbounded release party}}
  
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| I am being chased. Your friends of the Seventeenth Shard, I suspect. I believe they're still lost, following a false trail I left for them. They'll be happier that way. I doubt they have any inkling what to do with me should they actually catch me.
  
| I am being chased. Your friends of the Seventeenth Shard, I suspect. I believe they're still lost, following a false trail I left for them. They'll be happier that way. I doubt they have any inkling what to do with me should they actually catch me.
 
| [[The Letter]] {{epigraph ref|sa1|26}}
  
| [[The Letter]] {{epigraph ref|sa1|26}}
 
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The '''Seventeenth Shard''' is a mysterious organization that, along with [[Hoid]] and the [[Shard]]s, is speculated to be influential in the overall [[Cosmere]]. Its members have a nonintervention philosophy{{wob ref|1735}}, believing that the Shards were split up for a reason and that people shouldn't dabble in mixing them.{{wob ref|1564}} The organization's name was very deliberately chosen.{{wob ref|4439}}
   
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== Appearances ==
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== Beliefs and Objectives ==
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The Seventeenth Shard has a non-interventionist policy when it comes to the planets and Shards.{{wob ref|1735}} They believe that the Shards split up for a reason and they shouldn't dabble in bringing them together. They watch the planets but do not approve of getting involved or assimilating into another planet's society. They believe interfering will merely exacerbate the conflicts between the Shards.{{wob ref|1564}} While they have goals beyond chasing down [[Hoid]], those goals are not yet known.{{wob ref|7910}}
   
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== History ==
 
=== Roshar ===
  
=== Roshar ===
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[[Ishikk]] the [[Purelake]]r is acting as a guide and informant to three unnamed foreigners who are looking for [[Hoid]].{{book ref|sa1|i|1}} Ishikk has nicknames for the three men: ''Grump'', ''Thinker'', and ''Blunt''. These men have been confirmed to be from the Seventeenth Shard.
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[[Ishikk]] the [[Purelake]]r is acting as a guide and informant to three unnamed foreigners who are looking for [[Hoid]].{{book ref|sa1|i|1}} Ishikk has nicknames for the three men: ''Grump'', ''Thinker'', and ''Blunt''. These men have been confirmed to be from the Seventeenth Shard. They brought the common cold to Roshar.{{wob ref|1735}}
   
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* Grump has the distinct linguistic pattern of [[Dula]]s from [[Sel]], it has been confirmed by Brandon that Grump is [[Galladon]].{{qa ref|618|49|Is Galladon the Dula?|date=Aug 4th, 2011}}
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* Grump has the distinct linguistic pattern of [[Dula]]s from [[Sel]], it has been confirmed by Brandon that Grump is [[Galladon]].{{wob ref|10085}}
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* Brandon has also confirmed at a signing that Thinker is [[Demoux]] from [[Scadrial]];{{qa ref|675|10|Is Thinker Demoux?|date=Dec 15th, 2011}} this was first conjectured in the 17th Shard forums based on the scar on Demoux's scalp.{{17s ref|post|22983|Theory: Galladon in WoK|date=13 December 2011}}
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* Brandon has also confirmed at a signing that Thinker is [[Demoux]] from [[Scadrial]];{{wob ref|6683}} this was first conjectured in the 17th Shard forums based on the scar on Demoux's scalp.{{17s ref|post|22983|Theory: Galladon in WoK|date=13 December 2011}}
 
* The third member called Blunt is [[Baon]] from [[Taldain]], the [[Shardworld]] in which the graphic novel of ''[[White Sand]]'', as well as its unpublished prose novel form, take place.
  
* The third member called Blunt is [[Baon]] from [[Taldain]], the [[Shardworld]] in which the graphic novel of ''[[White Sand]]'', as well as its unpublished prose novel form, take place.
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== Relationships ==
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; Hoid
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: The Seventeenth Shard has an antagonistic relationship with Hoid. Because of their non-interference policy, they do not approve or agree with Hoid's actions on various planets. They are worried and believe his actions will interfere with their overall goals. As a result, they are trying to chase Hoid down and stop him in some way.{{wob ref|7910}} Hoid does not seem particularly worried about what the Seventeenth Shard would do if they caught him.{{epigraph ref|sa1|26}}
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: The [[Ghostbloods]] and the Seventeenth Shard are not working together.{{wob ref|1757}} The Ghostbloods actively try to recruit members of the Seventeenth Shard, particularly the field agents.{{wob ref|11599}} The Ghostbloods seem to have been successful at least once, as [[Iyatil]] was a member of the Seventeenth Shard before she joined the Ghostbloods.{{wob ref|8134}}
   
 
== Known Members ==
  
== Known Members ==
 
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* [[Aslydin]] - Demoux's partner on [[Scadrial]]{{reddit ref|books|2ytg2h|cpcxqco|text=Aslydin is Seventeenth Shard|date=2015-03-12}}
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* [[Aslydin]] - Demoux's wife on [[Scadrial]]{{wob ref|3358}}
 
* [[Demoux]] - A soldier from Scadrial
  
* [[Demoux]] - A soldier from Scadrial
 
* [[Galladon]] - An Elantrian from [[Sel]]
  
* [[Galladon]] - An Elantrian from [[Sel]]
 
* [[Baon]] - A soldier from [[Taldain]]
  
* [[Baon]] - A soldier from [[Taldain]]
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* [[Khriss]] - A worldhopper from [[Taldain]]{{qa ref|632|4}}{{reddit ref|Stormlight_Archive|4nov0o|d4bwlnk}}
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* [[Iyatil]] - A worldhopper from [[Silverlight]] -- a former member, now with the [[Ghostbloods]].{{wob ref|8134}}
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* [[Iyatil]] - A worldhopper from [[Silverlight]] -- a former member, now with the [[Ghostbloods]].{{wob ref|8134|date=Nov. 13, 2017|text=Iyatil was once in the 17th Shard...}}
  
   
 
==Trivia==
  
==Trivia==
 
* Most members of the Seventeenth Shard, including Demoux, use a method that significantly slows aging, but doesn't stop it completely.{{wob ref|2561}}
  
* Most members of the Seventeenth Shard, including Demoux, use a method that significantly slows aging, but doesn't stop it completely.{{wob ref|2561}}
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* [[Brandon]] does not have a book currently planned for them,{{wob ref|9662}} but they will play a large role in future books.{{wob ref|1735}}
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* The Seventeenth Shard brought the common cold to Roshar.{{wob ref|date=2016-11-22|1735|Arcanum Unbounded release party}}
  
   
 
== Notes ==
  
== Notes ==
 
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{{wob ref|date=2016-29-11|2561|''Arcanum Unbounded'' Fort Collins signing}}
  
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Revision as of 14:12, 4 August 2019

Seventeenth Shard
Headquarters In Silverlight[1]
World of Origin Roshar
Universe Cosmere

“ I am being chased. Your friends of the Seventeenth Shard, I suspect. I believe they're still lost, following a false trail I left for them. They'll be happier that way. I doubt they have any inkling what to do with me should they actually catch me. ”

The Seventeenth Shard is a mysterious organization that, along with Hoid and the Shards, is speculated to be influential in the overall Cosmere. Its members have a nonintervention philosophy[3], believing that the Shards were split up for a reason and that people shouldn't dabble in mixing them.[4] The organization's name was very deliberately chosen.[5]

Beliefs and Objectives

The Seventeenth Shard has a non-interventionist policy when it comes to the planets and Shards.[3] They believe that the Shards split up for a reason and they shouldn't dabble in bringing them together. They watch the planets but do not approve of getting involved or assimilating into another planet's society. They believe interfering will merely exacerbate the conflicts between the Shards.[4] While they have goals beyond chasing down Hoid, those goals are not yet known.[6]

History

Roshar

Ishikk the Purelaker is acting as a guide and informant to three unnamed foreigners who are looking for Hoid.[7] Ishikk has nicknames for the three men: Grump, Thinker, and Blunt. These men have been confirmed to be from the Seventeenth Shard. They brought the common cold to Roshar.[3]

  • Grump has the distinct linguistic pattern of Dulas from Sel, it has been confirmed by Brandon that Grump is Galladon.[8]
  • Brandon has also confirmed at a signing that Thinker is Demoux from Scadrial;[9] this was first conjectured in the 17th Shard forums based on the scar on Demoux's scalp.[10]
  • The third member called Blunt is Baon from Taldain, the Shardworld in which the graphic novel of White Sand, as well as its unpublished prose novel form, take place.

Relationships

Hoid
The Seventeenth Shard has an antagonistic relationship with Hoid. Because of their non-interference policy, they do not approve or agree with Hoid's actions on various planets. They are worried and believe his actions will interfere with their overall goals. As a result, they are trying to chase Hoid down and stop him in some way.[6] Hoid does not seem particularly worried about what the Seventeenth Shard would do if they caught him.[2]
Ghostbloods
The Ghostbloods and the Seventeenth Shard are not working together.[11] The Ghostbloods actively try to recruit members of the Seventeenth Shard, particularly the field agents.[12] The Ghostbloods seem to have been successful at least once, as Iyatil was a member of the Seventeenth Shard before she joined the Ghostbloods.[13]

Known Members

For more information, see :Category: Seventeenth Shard.

Trivia

  • Most members of the Seventeenth Shard, including Demoux, use a method that significantly slows aging, but doesn't stop it completely.[15]
  • Brandon does not have a book currently planned for them,[16] but they will play a large role in future books.[3]

Notes

  1. ↑ Skyward Anchorage signing
    — Arcanum - 2018-11-12#
  2. ↑ a b The Way of Kings chapter 26 epigraph#
  3. ↑ a b c d Arcanum Unbounded release party
    — Arcanum - 2016-11-22#
  4. ↑ a b Arcanum Unbounded Chicago signing
    — Arcanum - 2016-12-06#
  5. ↑ Words of Radiance Los Angeles signing
    — Arcanum - 2014-03-05#
  6. ↑ a b Words of Radiance Philadelphia signing
    — Arcanum - 2014-03-21#
  7. ↑ The Way of Kings interlude I-1#
  8. ↑ West Jordan signing
    — Arcanum - 2011-08-04#
  9. ↑ West Jordan signing
    — Arcanum - 2011-12-15#
  10. ↑ Theory: Galladon in WoK
    — 17th Shard forums - 13 December 2011#
  11. ↑ Paris signing
    — Arcanum - 2016-10-22#
  12. ↑ Skyward release party
    — Arcanum - 2018-11-06#
  13. ↑ a b Oathbringer release party
    — Arcanum - 2017-11-13#
  14. ↑ /r/books AMA 2015
    — Arcanum - 2015-03-12#
  15. ↑ Arcanum Unbounded Fort Collins signing
    — Arcanum - 2016-11-29#
  16. ↑ Arcanum Unbounded release party
    — Arcanum - 2016-11-22#
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